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Church Nativity Scene Removed, Left in Heap
NBC San Diego ^ | 11/3 | Brie Stimson and Mackenzie Maynard

Posted on 12/03/2017 11:27:10 PM PST by nickcarraway

The Lighthouse Christian Church in Oceanside and their property association are at odds over who owns the land in front of the church's sign

Pastor Mike Openshaw of the Lighthouse Christian Church was confused last Thursday when he received an email telling his church to remove their Nativity scene. The email came from the Ranch Maintenance Agreement Board, the property association who says they are in charge of maintaining the land in front of the church.

In part, the email read: “Please be advised that the board of directors shall have the display removed by end of day, tomorrow, Friday if it is not done so by the Lighthouse Church.” “I prepared a response and before I could send it, a representative of the company called me and apologized for the whole thing and we had every right to put this up,” Openshaw told NBC 7. “[She said] we could display a Nativity scene, sorry this happened, hoped I would forgive her and I said sure and thought everything was fine.”

But a couple of hours later, the same woman called back saying the president of the board was at the corner of Mesa and College removing the Nativity scene himself.

“I raced up here and he was already gone, and I found the Nativity scene behind the monument in a jumble all disconnected and no one was here. He had come and gone quickly,” Openshaw said.

The Nativity scene was placed in front of the church to cover up damage caused by a pickup truck that crashed into the church’s monument in October. Pastor Openshaw called the Ranch Maintenance Agreement Board asking for help with the repairs.

“We filed an insurance claim [but] the property association said that's our sign on our property and we have to fix it,” he explained.

Openshaw said the company is now saying the property is theirs, contrary to their statement in October. He has reached out to the city and is waiting for them to identify the property line.

While waiting to hear back, they made their voices heard Sunday with a demonstration outside of the church. “This is Christmas time – to put up a Nativity is common it’s normal,” he said.

Openshaw said he was especially dismayed by the way the president of the board disassembled the Nativity scene and left it in a heap behind the church.

“It’s sad as an example to our youth,” he said. “It’s sad as an example to our citizens that there’s a way to disagree and there’s a way to problem solve and that's not it.”

NBC 7 reached out to the Ranch Maintenance Agreement Board but has not yet heard back.


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1 posted on 12/03/2017 11:27:10 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

why can’t the church put it further back?


2 posted on 12/03/2017 11:34:28 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Per the article, it is positioned directly in front of a section of their sign and planter that was damaged by a vehicle collision. If you look closely at the photo you can see the planter wall is cracked.

Ironically the same outfit that says the Nativity scene is on its property is the same one that says the sign and planter are on the church property. Sounds like typical HOA petty tyrants at work. HOA’s seem to attract the same sort of people who would be Stasi informers or petty commissars in the old Eastern Bloc.


3 posted on 12/03/2017 11:47:35 PM PST by SargeK
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To: nickcarraway

But a couple of hours later, the same woman called back saying the president of the board was at the corner of Mesa and College removing the Nativity scene himself.


I suspect “el president” has a personal problem with this expression of faith.
He needs a turn-up in public, he will run like all cowards do, shame is a powerful tool.


4 posted on 12/04/2017 12:48:36 AM PST by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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This poor soul’s mother probably didn’t take him to Sunday School or he was a rebel. Going out of one’s way to trash the deity of Jesus Christ is not a smart move . . .God is watching.


5 posted on 12/04/2017 1:07:16 AM PST by Maudeen (http://www.thereishopeinJesus.com/)
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To: yldstrk

In our town in ohio, the city/township has control of all kand 65 feet from the centerlinr of the road.


6 posted on 12/04/2017 1:56:16 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: nickcarraway

Shouldn’t the owner of the pickup truck that crashed and caused the damage pay for it? Of course, since it’s San Diego, there’s a good chance that the driver was an uninsured illegal alien.


7 posted on 12/04/2017 3:03:21 AM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
In our town in ohio, the city/township has control of all kand 65 feet from the centerlinr of the road.

It's called Easement. The land owner pays taxes on the land, but the city, county, state or federal government can use it for road expansion, utilities or even a border wall.

8 posted on 12/04/2017 3:06:36 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
In our town in ohio, the city/township has control of all kand 65 feet from the centerlinr of the road.

It's called an Easement. The land owner pays taxes on the land, but the city, county, state or federal government can use it for roads, road expansion, utilities or even a border wall.

9 posted on 12/04/2017 3:21:27 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper

I know it’s a type of easement. My neighbor wanted to widen r]the apron on his driveway, He started work and the township stopped him, and fined him.


10 posted on 12/04/2017 4:33:50 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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