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Bioethicist on NBCNews.com: Having Kids is 'Indulgence' That's Bad For The Earth
Newsbusters ^ | Nov. 15, 2017 | Matthew Balan |

Posted on 11/19/2017 10:02:13 AM PST by Morgana

Professor Travis Reider of Johns Hopkins University boosted population control as a solution for climate change in a Wednesday op-ed for NBCNews.com. Reider, an assistant director at the school's Berman Institute of Bioethics, hyped that "having a child is a major contributor to climate change," and asserted that "the logical takeaway here is that everyone on Earth ought to consider having fewer children." He later outlined that "having a child imposes high [carbon] emissions on the world, while the parents get the benefit. So like with any high-cost luxury, we should limit our indulgence."

Reider's item on the Big Three network's website was provocatively titled, "Science proves kids are bad for Earth. Morality suggests we stop having them." The academic, who "blogs occasionally" at Huffington Post, first trumpeted that there is a "startling and honestly distressing view...beginning to receive serious consideration in both academic and popular discussions of climate change ethics." He continued with his "logical takeaway" line about limiting population growth in order to reduce climate change.

The Johns Hopkins professor explained that "the scientific half of this position is fairly well-established. Several years ago, scientists showed that having a child, especially for the world's wealthy, is one of the worst things you can do for the environment." He added that the "the second, moral aspect of the view — that perhaps we ought to have fewer children — is also being taken seriously in many circles. Indeed, I have written widely on the topic myself."

Reider included two supporting links. The first was to an October 2015 op-ed in the Boston Globe from Professor Sara Conly of Bowdoin College, who decried the end of communist China's infamous one-child policy as an "environmental disaster." The bioethicist's second link was to a September 2016 item he wrote that replied to criticisms of his anti-fertility position. In the piece, he emphasized, "I dont hate babies! I'm pretty wild about my own kid, and small humans in general."

The academic spent the remainder of his op-ed explaining the apparent necessity to "stop pretending the decision to have children doesn't have environmental and ethical consequences." He first claimed that "some amount of an offspring's [carbon] emissions count towards the parents' ledger. Most environmentalists accept this sort of ledger view when it comes to recycling, driving, and flying, but support begins to decrease when applied to family planning."

Reider scolded the opponents of "family planning" (of course, this means contraception, sterilization, and abortion) by using the release of a murderer from prison as an extreme hypothetical example:

...If I release a murderer from prison, knowing full well that he intends to kill innocent people, then I bear some responsibility for those deaths — even though the killer is also fully responsible. My having released him doesn't make him less responsible (he did it!). But his doing it doesn’t eliminate my responsibility either.

Something similar is true, I think, when it comes to having children: Once my daughter is an autonomous agent, she will be responsible for her emissions. But that doesn't negate my responsibility. Moral responsibility simply isn't mathematical.

If you buy this view of responsibility, you might eventually admit that having many children is wrong, or at least morally suspect, for standard environmental reasons: Having a child imposes high emissions on the world, while the parents get the benefit. So like with any high-cost luxury, we should limit our indulgence.

Reider concluded his piece by again addressing his critics: "I am certainly not arguing that we should shame parents, or even that we're obligated to have a certain number of children...I don't think there is a tidy answer to the challenging questions of procreative ethics. But that does not mean we're off the moral hook. As we face the very real prospect of catastrophic climate change, difficult — even uncomfortable — conversations are important. Yes, we should discuss the ethics of making babies with care and respect; but we should discuss it."

Despite trying to the ease the concerns of opponents, the fact that the professor linked to an item that argued in favor of China's oppressive one-child policy could be an indication that he is open to such an action.

NBC isn't the first major media outlet to give Reider a platform. Back in August 2016, NPR's All Things Considered spotlighted the bioethicist's "radical" anti-fertility position (the professor linked to the public radio outlet's story in the NBC piece). He actually proposed that "richer nations...should do away with tax credits for new parents and actually impose penalties like a carbon tax on kids" — something that he didn't mention in his most recent item.


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: abortion; bioethicist; prolife
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1 posted on 11/19/2017 10:02:13 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Well, Travis, consider yourself to be a “Big Kid” and put your money where your mouth is (or preferably a gun).


2 posted on 11/19/2017 10:04:02 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Morgana

What concerns me about this “bioethical” slant on anti-humanism is technology. With the publication of the human genome and ever increasing technology, the time may come when one “ethical” nut case can substantially harm the entire human race. All it takes is financial backing and a lab that, eventually, will fit in a closet. The world is loaded with rich, wannabe Bond villains ready to finance these schemes. Another possibility is a state actor, like Iran.


3 posted on 11/19/2017 10:06:24 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Morgana
Gen. 1:28: God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

For this idiot, his morality comes from humanism where man is the measure of all things. This idiot exemplifies this perfectly: “If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer, How Shall We Then Live? (Old Tappan NJ: Fleming H Revell Company, 1976), p. 224.

4 posted on 11/19/2017 10:08:27 AM PST by Fungi (A fungus for every life.)
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To: Morgana

He’s a hypocrite. I hate them.


5 posted on 11/19/2017 10:10:05 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (White is the new Black.)
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To: Morgana

I don’t have the slightest problem with someone having lots of kids, as long as they’re not being supported by the State.

I suppose this professor would be happy with me, though, since I have no children nor any desire to have them in the future.


6 posted on 11/19/2017 10:10:10 AM PST by Simon Green (<i>)
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To: Morgana

If everyone who listens to this don’t have kids then only the wrong people will have children.


7 posted on 11/19/2017 10:14:47 AM PST by the_daug
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To: dfwgator

His mother would have saved the earth a lot of hot air if she would have held her son’s philosophy.


8 posted on 11/19/2017 10:14:57 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Morgana

9 posted on 11/19/2017 10:16:31 AM PST by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: Morgana

The media speaks...
“Indulge in products we make more profit on than children’s necessities!
God wants us to make more profit! The Earth wants us to make more profit!”


10 posted on 11/19/2017 10:17:37 AM PST by mrsmith (Me too.)
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To: Morgana

What in God’s name is a BIOETHICIST?


11 posted on 11/19/2017 10:17:45 AM PST by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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To: tired&retired

If he offed himself, I might be impressed with his commitment to the cause.


12 posted on 11/19/2017 10:18:16 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Morgana

When will these nuts start pushing Sterilization


13 posted on 11/19/2017 10:19:33 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: dfwgator

Odd how these assclowns never want to do the ultimate eh ?


14 posted on 11/19/2017 10:25:52 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: dfwgator

If a stork brings a baby, what kind of a bird brings no baby?

Swallow.. .forgive me for bad humor!


15 posted on 11/19/2017 10:26:43 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Over the years I’ve noticed that bioethicists are the thick ones who couldn’t cut it as real scientists.


16 posted on 11/19/2017 10:27:38 AM PST by pluvmantelo (Open eyes, mind and heart. On the straight path.)
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To: Morgana

The overpopulation pushers are starting up again because white people are having children again.

They had effectively conned the Baby Boom generation in the early ‘70s resulting in Roe v. Wade and the “replacement children” mantra.

It was never anything except an attempt to get the Americans and the Europeans to snuff themselves out, after which their lands would be repopulated with Third Worlders who would be compliant slaves, a process still ongoing with the illegal immigration invasion of the U.S. and the Arab/African invasion of Europe.

So they’re trying the same crap again: guilt trip the whites into suicide as a lifestyle and saying nothing to the hyper expanding populations of Asia and Africa.


17 posted on 11/19/2017 10:39:28 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Morgana

Psst Professor everything on earth can and will kill you it’s not like it is helpless.


18 posted on 11/19/2017 10:43:37 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: Morgana

“population control as a solution for climate change”

Population Control is the key here.
It’s been the goal of these Anti-Human azzhats for decades.


19 posted on 11/19/2017 10:58:05 AM PST by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Morgana

Liberal elite nut case...probably afraid to be in a love relationship with a women.... thinks climate change is caused by SUV’s...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/trieder-722

“... research focuses on procreative ethics, climate change ethics, and the ethics of prescription opioid use. I also work on using theoretical moral philosophy to inform practical discussion, both in academic and in the general public spheres.


20 posted on 11/19/2017 11:03:22 AM PST by GOPJ (https://www.reddit.com/r/StumpSheet/comments/6ec3z1/fake_hate_crimes_official/)
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