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Man Who Beat the Life Out of 2-Day-Old Infant Gets the Life Beaten Out of Him in Prison
Conservative Tribune ^ | Nov 17, 2017 | V SAXENA

Posted on 11/18/2017 5:58:46 AM PST by metmom

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To: Albion Wilde; xone

We’re taught that if we repent and ask for forgiveness we will be forgiven. So someone who rapes a child, sincerely repents and asks for forgiveness, will be forgiven. That’s God’s call and I accept it. My problem is I have to forgive the evil creep, too, or I won’t be forgiven. I just hope when I get to heaven I won’t know everyone else’s sin.


41 posted on 11/18/2017 1:49:15 PM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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I think the weight of your forgiveness tasks is mainly on those with whom you personally interact, including layers of family, friendship, community, workplace, and civil society, and then on to larger society (such as the pangs a soldier or police officer may feel) and lastly, those whom you don't know but hear about, like this guy.

In the case of someone you don't know, believers understand that God will repay, and a felon's repentance towards God does not excuse him or her from appropriate civil penalties. It is the principle of "penitence" and "penetentiaries" based in the rule of law that keeps us from exacting cruel and unusual punishments or wreaking vengeance on a covict or his/her family for the sake of satisfying blood lust.

42 posted on 11/18/2017 2:15:10 PM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: xone

No need to criticize something that doesn’t exist.


43 posted on 11/18/2017 3:01:13 PM PST by HypatiaTaught (Millions more Closet Trumpers than Never Trumpers)
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No need to criticize something that doesn’t exist.

Similarly, there is no reason to invoke something that doesn't exist to you in order to sound profound. Pagans: what don't they know?

44 posted on 11/18/2017 7:04:37 PM PST by xone
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To: Albion Wilde; Terry Mross
I think the weight of your forgiveness tasks is mainly on those with whom you personally interact, including layers of family, friendship, community, workplace, and civil society, and then on to larger society (such as the pangs a soldier or police officer may feel) and lastly, those whom you don't know but hear about, like this guy.

Forgiveness is a struggle for man because it feels like saying that what the person did is OK. And being wronged is not OK. What the other person did to hurt someone or wrong them, is not acceptable.

We want to see justice, as we should.

The few things to consider, though about forgiveness is that our main obligation is to forgive those who have personally wronged us. I don't know about *forgiving* someone for something they did to someone else.

That is for that person and their family to deal with.

The other thing is, maybe I missed it, but forgiveness USUALLY requires the person asking for it. Now, I understand the need to forgive others even when they don't ask as sometimes that just isn't going to happen, or can't happen. However, God Himself does not blanket forgive everyone. If He did, He'd have to let everyone into heaven. We must come to Him and ask Him to forgive us personally for our offense against Him.

Are we REQUIRED to forgive someone who has not asked us? I don't know.

I'm not looking for an excuse to not forgive and to hold a grudge, but I'm not sure of the answer on that one.

That said, holding grudges isn't good either. We have to let it go sometimes. Is that forgiveness? I don't know either.

But sometimes, I'm in the position of just having to say to God, "This is in your hands. I'm taking mine off. YOU deal with it." and letting it go and letting whatever He decides be enough for me.

45 posted on 11/19/2017 5:29:15 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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