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Unprepared NYC graduates spend $63M a year on remedial classes
NY Post ^ | September 14, 2017 | Selim Algar

Posted on 09/15/2017 7:12:19 AM PDT by EinNYC

Thousands of city public-school graduates falter as college freshmen, and have to empty their pockets because of it, according to a new report.

Ill-prepared for collegiate course work, more than 21,000 city graduates end up shelling out an average of $3,000 annually for remedial classes, according to a study by pro-charter advocacy group StudentFirstNY.

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THIS is what I've been telling FReepers for the longest time. This is the result of driving veteran teachers from the system, to be replaced with the 10-day-wonders from Teach For America and brand new education graduates. This is the result of forcing teachers, with no input from them, to teach according to "progressive" protocols. This is the result of the collapse of any semblance of classroom discipline, lest the teacher be brought up on false charges. And this is the result of the incredible pressure on teachers to pass anyone who can fog up a mirror or face job-threatening consequences. I've been telling FReepers that NYC high school diplomas are now meaningless pieces of paper, and now you can read it for yourselves. This is a disgrace, it's forcing taxpayers to pay double for students' education and it's forcing students to pay for what they should have learned in high school. My only consolation is that most of these are the very students who screwed around in high school and thus put themselves in the situation of having to take remedial courses--this time at their own expense. The mayor has been blatantly lying all along about any so-called improved graduation rates, as I have previously posted. Just because people have been coerced into graduation the students doesn't mean the students are college-ready. Indeed, only about 23% of them on average can start college without taking any remedial courses.
1 posted on 09/15/2017 7:12:19 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

>>Unprepared NYC graduates spend $63M a year on remedial classes<<

They must be doing well if each can shell out $63 million for remedial classes. If I had that kind of money I probably would not spend a lot of time in remedial classes.

(ah, the irony that the “journalist” and “editor” need remedial edumacatiom).


2 posted on 09/15/2017 7:18:00 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The UK has no death penalty, unless you are an 11 month old infant with no arrest history)
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To: EinNYC

And colleges don’t give a rats if they can read or not. It’s not about academics, it’s about engineering their lives and because the “students” are nothing more than profit centers.


3 posted on 09/15/2017 7:19:43 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: EinNYC

Deliberately dumbing down education to the level of the lowest performing “students” isn’t working out so well. But, I’m sure these “students” had very high GPA’s in high school, and were outstanding in all the various “social justice” issues and skills.


4 posted on 09/15/2017 7:20:01 AM PDT by euram
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To: EinNYC

What does NYC pay per pupil per year in education?

$15K?

For what results?


5 posted on 09/15/2017 7:30:26 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: EinNYC

Every time I’m waited on by a “hip” millennial at checkout, I can attest to their ineptness at the most basic math every time I give them odd change in coin to even out my cash change received. This even confuses them BEFORE they enter the cash tendered in their dumbed down cash register. I have to tell them what they owe me. Unimaginable.


6 posted on 09/15/2017 7:30:42 AM PDT by fwdude (Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
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To: EinNYC

I say let them all be poor AND stupid. Its a free country.


7 posted on 09/15/2017 7:41:42 AM PDT by Delta 21
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To: fwdude

Even seasoned citizen cashiers are occasionally taken aback when you hand them $6.11 for a $5.86 charge. It’s for your own good, trust me. “Just see what the cash register says.”


8 posted on 09/15/2017 7:44:58 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I’m talking about giving them $20.01 for a $14.56 order. Can they not count back?


9 posted on 09/15/2017 7:49:30 AM PDT by fwdude (Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

It’s better to slide the $6 then after they ring it up, then slide the 11 cents. They really get dumbfounded. The last time I did that at Wendy]s the girl said I hate when people do that and called the manager over.


10 posted on 09/15/2017 7:49:45 AM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: EinNYC

“Veteran teachers” of the sort you describe started leaving in droves 40 years ago. They are a species that has been virtually extinct in government schools for over two decades. The problem is government schools. The model is the mistake, and they need to be shut down. They are institutionalized child abuse.


11 posted on 09/15/2017 7:50:35 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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“Veteran teachers” of the sort you describe started leaving in droves 40 years ago. They are a species that has been virtually extinct in government schools for over two decades. The problem is government schools. The model is the mistake, and they need to be shut down. They are institutionalized child abuse.


12 posted on 09/15/2017 7:50:35 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: EinNYC

Community College is the nrw high school.


13 posted on 09/15/2017 7:52:43 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: shotgun

New...


14 posted on 09/15/2017 7:53:01 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: Undecided 2012

I always hand them the change first. Give them the 11 cents, then the single, then the five. Some will try to hand it back, but just say, “See what the cash register says.” With a very little practice rounding out change to nearest coin - quarter, dime or nickel - is not really particularly hard, it become a habit. When you don’t have the pennies, round to the next whateveryouhaveinyourpocketthatworks. If it’s $7.34, and the only change you have is dime, hand them the dime, and then the ten. They will be startled. Startled. Sometimes it sinks in.


15 posted on 09/15/2017 8:18:50 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Many government schools are a pathetic joke on the taxpayers, the parents and the students. Of course the purported overpaid and under-worked “educators” are doing all they can “for the children”. I guess it is not enough.


16 posted on 09/15/2017 8:32:44 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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My brother, and Micheal Savage both happend to work briefly as math teachers at a junior high school in Jamaica, Queens. It’s not [only] the teachers, it’s the completely fubar system.


17 posted on 09/15/2017 8:45:48 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: EinNYC
The mayor has been blatantly lying all along about any so-called improved graduation rates...

If as you say - the only 'requirement' is to be able to fog up a mirror - maybe 'graduation rates' are higher.

Better - - Taxpayers in New York could save a bundle of money if they let 'kids' stay home and when they turn 18 herd them over to a gymnasium and hand them each a 'degree'... No building expenses, teacher salaries, custodial staff etc...

18 posted on 09/15/2017 9:06:52 AM PDT by GOPJ ("$3 Million Dollars 'PER DAY' is spent to incarcerate criminal illegals.That's $1.2 Billion a year.")
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To: EinNYC

A lot of unqualified kids are going to college & getting in debt. Colleges don’t care. They want the money.


19 posted on 09/15/2017 2:26:27 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: EinNYC
gone are the days of an entrance exam

See Spot, see Spot run...

20 posted on 09/15/2017 3:32:14 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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