One of my kids just read a book about Red Hugh. This one, specifically...
Red Hugh, Prince of Donegal
Posted on 08/20/2017 6:28:10 AM PDT by Antoninus
And a tip of the hat to you for a small, edifying piece of Oklahoma history.
***They should replace the statues with statues of abolitionists.***
How about the twenty Staunch Abolitionists who each gave $5000 ($100,000 total) to bail out Jefferson Davis from Prison. Top two were Horace Greeley and Cornelius Vanderbilt.
” Hell is coming to breakfast”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX56rbqZhto
@ 1:45
The whole link is sweeeet!
Those statues have been standing there for decades, in some cases over 100 years. Now all of a sudden they’re offensive. The vandals must be told that if they don’t like a statue, be tolerant (like they’re always telling US to be tolerant) and just walk past it. They’re like little two-year-olds saying, “I don’t like it, take it down!” I hate the fact there’s a statue to a plagiarizer, womanizer, and communist in D.C., but if I saw it I wouldn’t deface it. These people tearing down statues should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. This crap has to stop.
One of many problems the Indians had was their tendency to pick the losing side when the whites around them went to war. During the French and Indian War, they picked the French. During the Revolution, most tribes backed British and during the Civil War, the tribes that got involved tended to go with the Confederates. I understand why they chose as they did, but backing the loser in a bitter war doesn’t make you many friends on the winning side.
Excellent. I haven’t seen that book before—I’ll have to check it out.
Went and checked my files. It appears John Ross, Chief of the pro-Union Cherokees, sent word that the following tribes had treated or joined with the Confederacy.
Cherokees, Creeks, Choctaws, Chickasaws, Osages, Seminoles, Senecas, Shawnees, Quapaws, Comanches, Wachitas, Kiowas, and Pottawatamies.
None of these tribes regained friendly relations with the Union until the Treaty of Sept 21, 1865. The five tribes in Oklahoma, which had reservations stretching from Arkansas to the Texas line, gave up the western portions of their reservations in 1866 for the much smaller reservation areas they have today.
Just so everyone knows about the “Indian Land” on the Washita, Black Kettle, after Sand Creek, was given a reservation in the former Cherokee Strip, but he had his tribe go to the former Chocktaw-Chickasaw lands, when they decided to attack farms and ranches in Kansas until Custer raided the village. They were NOT on their assigned lands.
Blah blah blah
Same old white excuses and pandering while under attack
Like half of this forum
About fifty posters who’s names are on my homepage are as guilty as the professional left
When I was a girl in the 70s, the school libraries were full of biographies of historical figures of every persuasion, all quite positive about that person’s accomplishments, no matter which side of whatever he/she was on.
I mean, what about “Red Hugh of Donegal”? What is the “right side” (for American elementary school students) of the Elizabethan Era conflict between Catholics and Protestants in Ireland.
I have that very one on the shelf. It was also the source for the movie.
There’s a movie? Do tell! I was not aware of that.
Yes, “The Fighting Prince of Donegal,” a Disney movie from the 1960s.
Ugggh. You said the “D” word. Although the 1960s Disney movies were definitely a mixed bag.
Oh, well. I didn’t make it. We used to watch them in school when it was raining and we couldn’t go out. Also the nature movies, like the one with the river otters.
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it. I recall that it had a great escape scene, reminiscent of Errol Flynn’s “Robin Hood,” and a rousing finish. Also some romantic digression.
I think you’d probably find it silly.
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