Posted on 07/23/2017 11:09:59 PM PDT by Boomer
I thought I saw a post to the effect that that problem had been addressed.
But, in any case, it's only relevant to the donation page, not to FR as a whole.
Unless FR as whole is going HTTPS.
Yep, I got sidetracked...”Boomer” was having the “ HTTPS “ issue originally...probably trying to “force” https for FR (I think when Jim/John announced https site wide a few people turned on their “HTTPS only” setting ....mostly an IE browser thing I think). I too am having increased trouble with “partial page loads”.
Mac Pro/Safari & Chrome here.
Even with settings at 20 threads/20 posts I can’t get a full page to load.
I just wish I understood what all you guys are talking about!!
I’;m on a MacPro, Safari, and nothing loads...we’ll try this thread.
Ed
It replies: “Your connection is not secure, your connection may be hacked.”
Is it really that hard to maintain a web site in this day and age?
Ee
This kind of explains what can happen.
What We Know About Friday’s Massive East Coast Internet Outage
https://www.wired.com/2016/10/internet-outage-ddos-dns-dyn/
But I’m good though today.
There is no need to "force" HTTPS for a site. The site can do it by itself.
E.g., try going to http://www.bankofamerica.com/. That's an insecure link. But before you know it, you will be looking at their HTTPS site. Initially, you will be connected to their insecure site, but it will quickly redirect to their secure site.
Think about it: if a bank depended on customers to type HTTPS, problems would develop instantly.
Yep, https is “automatic”, but some browsers allow users to enable a setting to reject sites that aren’t https.
I always make sure that I don’t have a computer around or an internet connection so that I never have to deal with that.
How then did you make this post? It requires an Internet connection of some kind whether via phone, wifi, or hard wired.
Must be noted. If you are logged into a https connection and have a window open in a non https connection the non https connection is still visible and a vulnerability.
I use TLS (transport level security) on both my cell phone and this Linux box. SSH is not really that secure in itself.
There have been times I wished I had a VPN connection to the web.
Threads only partly loading, again. Reduced to 20 displays last time, kept it there. Only the first ten display, can’t scroll further down.
Here is the comment I left at the linked site:
What motivates individuals to enjoy causing annoyance and even harm to others? When caught, some good old fashioned corporal punishment should be in order. Let all their victims have a swat at them with something big enough to hurt but not to cripple or kill. Of course after a thousand or so swats...
No problems? I am soooooo jealous. Damn Mac users...
When this latest situation is resolved, could we possibly have a “geek roundtable” thread to talk about the technical side of the site? Having more than one person trying to solve the problems could potentially help avoid the next big outage.
Hope it’s working better for you now now. I talked to John and he said he’d look into it. I see he got some of it fixed already. Thanks.
and fixing problems.
o “Isolate & Replace” is better than “Try this Try that”
Intentional Isolating a recurring software problem is the preferred method of troubleshooting. Therefore we will discuss software Profiling.
o Profiling
Software Profiling means printing out to memory, but usually to a hard drive file, the relevant functions, with specific relevant data, referenced by objects and modules. For example, the debug profiling file may read:
obj DoSomething func DoingIt dataNumber 327 dataName Bob
obj More func DoMore dataMore 489blahblah
. . .
Profiling is real time. Can be turned on/off real time by a simple setting property/variable. Reading such a file is the easiest, and probably the only way to understand quickly how a complex software operates. No more guessing.
o Debug Object
Yes a troubleshooting object is global everywhere. But it is the only global object. It can be local, with more difficulty.
Fortunately when the failure is isolated, solved, and fixed, the Debug Object is removed.
Example is simply: oDebug.printf( blah blah )
o Logging
Faulty problems can be Internal or External, Client or Server or else. Locate all relevant log files, but if possible, a Debug Log file, also called Profiling, should eliminate guessing.
It is amazing how programmers can take years or never, to slowly understand how a specific software operates. By Profiling, in only days not years, can complex software be made easy to understand, then isolate and fix.
o Interrmittency vs Hard Fail
Intermittent problems are far more difficult to solve unless Profiled with Debug files.
o Concurrency
Search & identify all concurrency such as threads, semaphores and such, in the language used.
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Must be some important news about to break.
You don’t know sarcasm when you hear it, do you?
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