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Borough presidents urge deBlasio to give black, Hispanic kids fair shot at gifted classes
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS ^ | June 21, 2017 | BEN CHAPMAN

Posted on 06/21/2017 12:18:45 AM PDT by EinNYC

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To: LostPassword

Sounds raycisss to me. They don’t have Affirmative Action in AL Sharpton’s home town?


21 posted on 06/21/2017 4:35:31 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: mewzilla

Libs love busing. Here’s a good use for it.


22 posted on 06/21/2017 4:35:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was ObamaThanks surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: EinNYC

Something along these lines is happening in my neck of the woods. The rule to get into an honors class was simple. Just have a B grade or better in the previous class (honors class or not).

So to get into, say, Honors Algebra 2, you had to have had at least a B in Algebra 1. Straightforward and fair, yes?

Evidently not. There were complaints that our honors classes weren’t diverse enough. So administration simply removed the B or better requirement. Come one, come all.

I’m sure you can predict the results. The honors teachers had to slow things down, as you cannot fail 1/3 of the class and still keep your job. Our honors classes are now no better than the mainstream classes.


23 posted on 06/21/2017 4:46:03 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: EinNYC

No they want the top schools dumbed down so their slug like constituents can sneak in and the teachers are forced to pass them.


24 posted on 06/21/2017 4:58:46 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: EinNYC

Well, if the kids performed at the gifted level, they would probably be in.

They can earn it, just like the white kids have to.


25 posted on 06/21/2017 4:59:50 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: EinNYC; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

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26 posted on 06/21/2017 5:00:44 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: EinNYC

You generally can’t tell at 4 if a child is gifted or not.

My older daughter certainly is and you could tell, just talking to her.

My younger daughter, turns out, is just as gifted but she was what you would call a *late bloomer*.

She STRUGGLED with schoolwork, especially reading and spelling. She was somewhat dyslexic as a child but I am convinced that it was more because she didn’t realize that it was important what direction her letters, words, and sentences went it. She once wrote a letter to her grandma that was in perfect mirror image. If you held it up in the mirror, it was flawless, but every bit of it was written *backwards*.

I have no doubt she would have been labeled as *resource* in elementary school and would have had the stigma of that albatross on her the rest of her life. Homeschooling for her was the best thing that could have happened to her.

By the time she went into high school at the local high school, she soared to the top of the class and stayed there. Graduated with honors and is now working on her PhD in science.


27 posted on 06/21/2017 5:07:40 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: BwanaNdege

You nailed it!


28 posted on 06/21/2017 5:09:46 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: LostPassword

School vouchers.


29 posted on 06/21/2017 5:10:45 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

Your post was a joy to read, metmom, and thanks for sharing it. I hope many more parents will seriously consider homeschooling for their children, if at all possible.


30 posted on 06/21/2017 5:14:38 AM PDT by Kalamata
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To: EinNYC

Instead of erroneously directing their attention at the specialized schools in Manhattan (they are not “exclusive by ‘neighborhood’ “, there is one or more in each of the five boroughs of New York City), the pols should direct their attention to allowing New York City students to escape the failing “neighborhood schools”, allowing all K-6 & grade 7,8,9 students to transfer to schools that will better prepare them for entrance to the specialized high schools.

As for transportation, the public transit system in NYC is huge and students can obtain either full fare or half fare (depending on whether or not they are actually within walking distance of their school) MTA cards; so there is not need for additional special transportation provisions for “minority” gifted kids.


31 posted on 06/21/2017 6:02:06 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: EinNYC
I worked for years at one of the world's most famous hospitals.It was so famous that one would trip over Nobel Prize winners while walking through the corridors.

There were two black physicians/surgeons with whom I interacted on a regular basis at this hospital.

One was recognized as being very highly skilled but was,at the same time,a bit full of himself (which was quite common among members of the medical staff).The other was recognized as being competent...fully competent,a physician who would be a big plus in a medium sized city's community hospital.OTOH,he was the nicest guy you could imagine.Not stuck up or pompous in the least.But I always suspected that he was a bit of an affirmative action hire.

That's my one big experience regarding "affirmative action".

32 posted on 06/21/2017 7:45:36 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Comey = The Swamp Fighting Back)
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To: EinNYC

Yes, let’s double down on affirmative action and give the less talented more attention and opportunity while simultaneously curtailing the hopes of those that are gifted and have the most to contribute.

Great idea!


33 posted on 06/21/2017 8:48:54 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: sphinx
Re: Private schools in crummy neighborhoods

What if the only requirements to open a private school were the same as those for home-based babysitting? Absolutely no other. Let the parents determine the qualifications of the teacher or teachers.

One mom could essentially run a one-room elementary school in her home. Even in the worst neighborhoods, there are people who would be effective teachers if given the chance. I know this because I grew up in, and lived in some of the worst neighborhoods in Philadelphia.

I ask this because, as a successful homeschooling mom, I was occasionally asked by a parent to homeschool their child. I was forbidden to do this by Maryland law.

34 posted on 06/21/2017 10:28:37 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: EinNYC

Screw this.

They are missing the entire point of gifted and highly gifted classes. These classes are for people for whom intellectual achievement come easily, sometimes too easily. Especially the HG programs, for kids who socially may be worlds behind their age peers, but who can calculate and synthesize far ahead of any age peers.

These are not “better” classes, nor do gifted or highly gifted kids succeed farther in life. GET A CLUE. They are for kids who automatically need to go much deeper into s subject than their peers. They are for kids to find friends who understand them.

GIFTED CLASSES AND PROGRAMS ARE FOR SPECIAL NEEDS.

Just because your kid has darker skin doesn’t mean he should get into classes for gifted, classes for the deaf, classes for Down syndrome. GET OVER YOUR SELVES.


35 posted on 06/21/2017 10:33:07 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: sphinx
Re: 3 gifted students

When I read that in the article I immediately thought of the 6 really bright but not officially gifted kids. What about them? Too bad, I guess.

36 posted on 06/21/2017 10:34:32 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: EinNYC

If you want to be in a gifted class then study hard to achieve it.
He means unfair and based on skin color, of course.


37 posted on 06/21/2017 4:17:02 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Yaelle
It's gotta be the schools making those kids smarter, can't be the kids. Hence the demand for help to pass the entry tests.
38 posted on 06/21/2017 5:00:28 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Wuli; mewzilla
The article includes the following remedy being pursued:
The "added gifted classes... use teacher referrals rather than tests to determine admissions."
That remedy is itself conclusive proof that: 1) Admissions to "gifted classes" had nothing to do with "zip-code" or transportation and everything to do with intelligence and 2) All those making that claim knew it was false.
39 posted on 06/22/2017 6:12:01 AM PDT by drpix
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