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Johnny Carson — the King of Late Night, and of Good Manners
National Review ^ | May 22, 2017 | Aaron Goldstein

Posted on 05/26/2017 2:35:33 AM PDT by iowamark

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To: vladimir998

I was at a dinner honoring the British playwright, Simon Gray, and Nathan Lane shamelessly used that line. Since we were the only Yanks at the party, he must have thought he could steal it!


21 posted on 05/26/2017 4:22:09 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: vladimir998

hahaa....


22 posted on 05/26/2017 4:26:34 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: iowamark

This is a total whitewash of Carson.

He was a first-class a**hole off the air to everyone around him.

He was horrible to his wives, his family and many times destroyed the careers of performers just because he was not honored by them.

The man was funny and presented a nice demeanor while on the air, but the reality is anything but that.


23 posted on 05/26/2017 4:51:36 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The largest and most dangerous hate-group in the US is now the Democratic Party)
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To: iowamark

Carson called Wayne Newton “Chief” in reference to his native American ancestry. http://www.today.com/popculture/wayne-newton-johnny-carson-mean-spirited-wbna22043375


24 posted on 05/26/2017 4:59:26 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: iowamark

Stumbled on this when researching all the great entertainers who have passed:

https://consumerist.com/2008/08/15/donald-trump-saves-ed-mcmahon-from-foreclosure/

Donald Trump doesn’t know Ed McMahon, but he “grew up watching him on tv,” so he’d like to be his new landlord. McMahon is currently facing foreclosure from Countrywide, and had 2 weeks to sell his house before the bank repossessed it. Mr. Trump has agreed to buy the house and lease it to McMahon, says the LA Times.


25 posted on 05/26/2017 5:02:39 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers)
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To: wally_bert

I’d love to also have a collection of the old Steve Allen shows, with Louis Nye, a pre-Mayberry Don Knotts, and other great characters. Bill Dana, “My name Jose Jimenez” also got his start on that show. That show and my brother’s destroyed by over use Jonathan Winters album collection formed my sense of humor. I hate to think about what effect modern “entertainment” is having on kids today.


26 posted on 05/26/2017 5:10:31 AM PDT by katana (It still hasn't occurred to them that Trump doesn't give a s***)
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To: OttawaFreeper

If you have DirecTV look for JLTV...Jewish network with the awesome motto....American’s Chosen Network. I happened upon that network a few weeks back. They play The Jack Benny Show, The Soupy Sales Show and the Dinah Shore show. I tape all of the Jack Benny’s. It is my favorite part of the week to watch those. Oh and we are also watching Peter Gunn on streaming. How sad is that? I have to go back 60 years for good TV!!


27 posted on 05/26/2017 5:17:16 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: iowamark

The night before Trump’s inauguration, I saw Dana Carvey perform at a private function. All I could think of was Carson. He was quick, funny and especially given the day it was, highly political. But, the audience left laughing and not having any real idea where he actually stood. His act was funny and not mean.

I miss comedians who are actually funny


28 posted on 05/26/2017 5:19:27 AM PDT by cyclotic
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To: WKUHilltopper
"TV is unwatchable."

TV has always been a vast wasteland to some degree or another. Sleaze became institutionalized January 20 1993.

29 posted on 05/26/2017 5:21:18 AM PDT by buckalfa (Slip sliding away towards senility.)
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To: taildragger

MeTV, Antenna TV, the Retro Channel, Decades etc. They are all taking your idea. That’s pretty much what I watch.

Decades has Cavett nightly, Antenna has Carson.

GRIT shows lots of old westerns. There’s another channel that shows the 70’s black family shows, Jeffersons, What’s Happening, Good Times etc.


30 posted on 05/26/2017 5:23:42 AM PDT by cyclotic
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To: cyclotic

Carvey does the best Carson impersonation.


31 posted on 05/26/2017 5:40:03 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (My wish list: https, failover server, six sigma uptime.)
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To: Maverick68

That was great. I miss performers like that.


32 posted on 05/26/2017 5:52:20 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: dowcaet
Johnny Carson was a Democrat by all accounts but he was non-partisan with his political jokes. That's​ a far cry from talentless hacks like Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart who display their liberal colors at all times. Johnny was then and would be today an outcast in his own party. The class, dignity and common sense which Johnny had escapes all Democrats today.

According to Wikipedia, Carson appears to have been a sort of squishy RINO politically, which I guess would make him sort of middle-of-the-road. In the article, he is quoted as saying he "didn't want the show to become a political forum". From the article:

In his book, Carson's former lawyer Henry Bushkin stated, he "was by instinct and upbringing definitely Republican, but of an Eisenhower sort that we don't see much of anymore.... Overall, you'd have to say he was anti-big: anti-big government, anti-big money, anti-big bullies, anti-big blowhards." Carson served as MC for Ronald Reagan's inauguration in 1981 at the request of Frank Sinatra.

My wife and I watched an episode of Carson this week and found it to be really refreshing. Classy host, classy guests, nothing like today's late night crap.

33 posted on 05/26/2017 6:19:19 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: iowamark

The sister and BIL of one of my best friends were very wealthy and owned Jack Benny’s old house in Hollywood. Their three best friends were Gene Hackman, Gene Wilder and Johnny Carson. My girlfriend used to visit out there several times per year. She said Johnny Carson practically lived at her sister’s house because he loved their tennis court. He was a tennis maniac. She also said he was very introverted in real life. He was a nice guy but very quiet. Nothing like on TV.


34 posted on 05/26/2017 7:37:10 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Not to mention Ed Sullivan.


35 posted on 05/26/2017 8:33:37 AM PDT by Jean2
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Johnny’s introversion was in large part the reason that when he retired from the Tonight Show, he retired almost completely from show business. I guess he did a little Vegas stuff, but not much, as I recall.


36 posted on 05/26/2017 8:39:54 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

There used to be as little as 5 minutes of ads per half-hour. Then it went to around 8 minutes per half, but now it’s over 11 minutes of ads. That’s for EVERY program out there including the news, and the non-news shows repeat what they did just before the commercial break as soon as the show returns.

There *might* be as much as 15 minutes of programming per half-hour once the repetition and ads are removed. I use the TV for a night light, or to entertain the dogs when I’m not home.

Then again, I occasionally find myself watching Chinese TV, and believe it or not, Al-Jazeera is pretty even-handed in their news most of the time.


37 posted on 05/26/2017 6:35:47 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: pepsionice

Everyone one of those are back on over the air television - I’ve seen them on AntennaTV, GetTV, Decades, etc. I don’t pay for my TV - I just use the old antenna and get dozens of channels for free. Saved thousands of dollars over the years. I spend a lot of my time watching old shows I never heard of before and were made long before I was born...it’s genuine comedy with actual talent - not just perverted sex jokes all the time. I’d take Burns and Allen over any current “comedy” sitcom.


38 posted on 06/27/2017 4:52:29 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: libertarian27

Yes, I got one of those SmartTV boxes - that and an antenna to supplement it with your over the air stations (there are more and more channels popping up these days) and a radio is all you need...no reason to pay thousands of dollars over the years on cable.


39 posted on 06/27/2017 4:55:40 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Sans-Culotte
I think Carson was basically apolitical or a moderate in the beginning. He got more liberal as time went on -- Hollywood was moving one way, and it looked like Middle America was moving the other way, and Carson moved with Hollywood -- but he certainly didn't push any political point of view on the show, even at the end.

Dick Cavett was very clearly a liberal Democrat and really pushed his point of view on his show. Mike Douglas was more of an old fashioned Democrat and old fashioned entertainer.

I'd distinguish a bit between Jon Stewart, who's obviously a liberal, but sometimes said surprising things, and Stephen Colbert, who's sticks much more to the party-line. Stewart wasn't always as predictable as Colbert and was never as vicious.

40 posted on 06/27/2017 5:15:52 PM PDT by x
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