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*VANITY* ... My Take On The Convention Of States ... *VANITY*
self/various ^ | May 12, 2017 | knarf

Posted on 05/12/2017 4:39:28 PM PDT by knarf

It's a camel's nose


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There is a scene in Ben Hur I really like and remember often while contemplating many thoughts induced by today's political/religio/socio conversations.

Marcella is the Roman boyhood friend of Jewish Judah Ben Hur and he has returned to Judea as the incoming centurian.

(Everything following is very abridged and synopsised)

In conversation with the outgoing centurian, Marcella is told these Jews have the damnable idea about one God (not the many Roman ones), and informs Marcella they are a docile enough people but how do you fight that idea (of one God)?

the movie continues and a circumstance brings Marcella back to the (yet removed) outgoing centurian and states,

(almost a quote)

"You once asked me how do you fight an idea ... I will show you ... with another idea"


President Trump has shown us we can be very effective if we will only follow the laws that we've already been given which were at the time, just ideas, never before put on paper and manifested as a nation.


I've read all the explanations for a Convention of States and they are pretty clear ... it will not be a law making or legislating body, but an idea transfer.

THAT, to me is the camel's nose in the tent.


The best illustration I can give as to the (potential) danger of any new idea (as a guy) is;
I remember the first picture I ever saw of a naked woman ... I think I was 11 or 12 ... and not only did I not forget it, I was driven from that moment on to seek out a woman for my life

I'm now 69

Forget the woman, illustration ...

But what if someone comes up with an idea that sounds SO good and SEEMS so perfect ... ?

That's my monthly allotment of one rant per.

Conversation and arguement is welcome.

1 posted on 05/12/2017 4:39:28 PM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

My take on vanities in news. Belongs in chat. Your meanderings aren’t “news.”


2 posted on 05/12/2017 4:40:42 PM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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You mean “Messala,” not “Marcella.”

Other than that, I cannot understand what you are saying. Do you believe a convention of states would be a positive opportunity, or the beginning of disaster?


3 posted on 05/12/2017 4:49:05 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: Tax-chick

beginning of disaster


4 posted on 05/12/2017 4:51:04 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: knarf

Thank you for clarifying.


5 posted on 05/12/2017 4:51:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: LouAvul

IIRC .. the “news” part was attached to another “subject”


6 posted on 05/12/2017 4:52:18 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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I thought "the camel's nose" would be sufficient.

But I AM prone to thinking other folks know what I am thinking/saying without a lot of descriptors.

7 posted on 05/12/2017 4:54:01 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: knarf

That’s what I thought.


8 posted on 05/12/2017 4:55:40 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: knarf

That was my first assumption, but then it got rather scrambled. One can’t assume that people mean the same thing by “camel’s nose.”


9 posted on 05/12/2017 4:56:39 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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The convention will be called with limits on the subjects discussed. Since only six states are controlled by demos it will be a repub show.


10 posted on 05/12/2017 4:56:55 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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There are some really good ideas IMO, like a good chunk of this set of [proposed] amendments, among which are ones limiting the income tax, limiting the "commerce clause", repealing the 17th Amendment and instituting term-limits, & mandating a gold standard while limiting the debts that congress can incur.
11 posted on 05/12/2017 4:57:02 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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There are those camel beauty contests, after all.


12 posted on 05/12/2017 4:57:32 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: humblegunner

Well?


13 posted on 05/12/2017 4:58:00 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- winner)
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To: buffaloguy
The convention will be called with limits on the subjects discussed. Since only six states are controlled by demos it will be a repub show.

That's not exactly comforting when you consider McCain, Romney, Rubio, Cruz, et al are Republicans too.

14 posted on 05/12/2017 4:58:22 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: aposiopetic

LOL, true! And there are those people who use clichéd metaphors without the slightest notion of what they connote.


15 posted on 05/12/2017 4:59:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: buffaloguy
"Since only six states are controlled by demos it will be a repub show."

Not necessarily a good thing, imo

16 posted on 05/12/2017 5:03:22 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Edward.Fish

I’ll read them later, but it would seem to me they are all ideas that are already out there and even some bills have been proposed.


17 posted on 05/12/2017 5:08:40 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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>>The convention will be called with limits on the subjects discussed. Since only six states are controlled by demos it will be a repub show.

As we have learned over the past 18 months, when many (most??) GOP politicians get a chance to screw over the people who elected them, they will take it. The “repub show” could turn into a UniParty show.

I would only trust them with explosive collars on their necks and a phone app where GOP voters can log in and vote to set the device off, so when they have pissed off a certain percentage of us, we get to elect a new politician who might better understand his duty to us and not to the banks, corporations, and lobbyists—and their friends across the aisle.


18 posted on 05/12/2017 5:09:53 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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I’ll read them later, but it would seem to me they are all ideas that are already out there and even some bills have been proposed.

Cool; I think you'll be mildly surprised and pleased with at least some of them.

19 posted on 05/12/2017 5:13:56 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: knarf


Speaking of camels...
20 posted on 05/12/2017 5:17:13 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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