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Help me find info on Donald Trump and eminent domain.
self | 4/20/2017 | self

Posted on 04/20/2017 5:38:11 PM PDT by Bellflower

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To: Bellflower

Eminent domain abuse could be avoided with a constitutional amendment prohibiting confiscated land from ever generating $$ for any government in the future. Seized land would be exempt from taxes and prohibited from generating more money than operating costs in the instance of a waste treatment plant, for example.


21 posted on 04/20/2017 6:36:46 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Bellflower

“DT is a compassionate and caring person.”

I agree, he is. I don’t know if the stories about DT’s use of eminent domain are true or not. I do know that there have been abusive uses of eminent domain.


22 posted on 04/20/2017 6:38:13 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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23 posted on 04/20/2017 6:39:22 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: HarleyLady27

I apologize for what ended up in my original post. My fat fingers hit a wrong letter...should have said hot shot..l..I did not mean what I originally posted. Waaaay to mean and nasty


24 posted on 04/20/2017 6:51:53 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Bellflower

You’re never going to convince a douche wad anti Trumper of anything. They are demented. Don’t even try.


25 posted on 04/20/2017 6:54:44 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Bellflower

I don’t know the full story, but my guess is she over-played her hand (so to speak) by trying to hold out for mor money. Or maybe the rooming house was her only source of income in her old age?


26 posted on 04/20/2017 7:37:44 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Property records show that on June 2, 2010, Coking transferred ownership of the house to her daughter, who put it on the market in 2011 with an initial asking price of $5 million.[1][7] By September 2013 the price had reduced to $1 million,[8]

The property was finally sold for $583,000 in an auction on July 31, 2014.[9] The buyer was Carl Icahn, who held the debt on Trump Entertainment, owner of Trump Plaza. He subsequently demolished the house on November 19, 2014.[10] Neither the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority nor the owners of Trump Plaza expressed any interest in the auction.[1]


27 posted on 04/20/2017 7:42:44 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: HarleyLady27

Now this link: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/02/08/governor, may be more in line with what he was seeking. Certainly better than the first one you offered up. 8>)


28 posted on 04/20/2017 8:34:02 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Bellflower

here’s a few of my old posts that might help. The pix of the ‘before’ house (first link) makes an impression.
The discussion on FR was about 2/16.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3402334/posts

Vera Coking would have lost her house within months to the tax collector if not for Trump’s contractor giving her the money to pay her back taxes of some $25K.
Vera’s tenant house before Trump (she wanted $5million for this):
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2876/12243145186_71315e50ce_z.jpg
Vera’s first action against Trump was to sue to keep the beams in place; she lost her suit. Trump offered to put up a privacy wall; Vera claimed it would ‘block the sun’. So he put landscaping and flagpoles in the bus/taxi waiting area on one side of her home. Vera’s tenant house after Trump removed the rusty steel shell. Notice the boarded up windows on the condemned floors:
http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/pressofatlanticcity.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/6/a8/6a8ad7a3-1051-5d8e-8b76-df12601b1806/546a548559c1d.image.jpg?resize=730%2C390
corner shot of Vera’s house, showing ongoing dilapidated condition of the structure:
http://www.oyster.com/atlantic-city/hotels/trump-plaza-hotel-and-casino/photos/street—v1064011-48/

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3395069/posts

The taxpayers of New Jersey decided to set aside a district for casinos in Atlantic City. All the owners in the designated area sold except Coking. Penthouse publisher Guccioni offered Cokings a million. She wanted more.
“Coking’s grandson, Ed Casey, previously told the Press of Atlantic City.... his grandmother....wasn’t opposed to selling...”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/one-time-trump-nemesis-91-is-moving-on/
Instead of being happy about Trump coming along with a contractor to tear down the steel beam shell Guccioni built over Coking’s tenant house, that she had lived under for years, Coking immediately sued Trump’s contractor for ‘damages’, for six months refusing and then accepting an out of court $90K no-blame settlement.
Coking’s real reason for suing was revealed by her attorney:
“Glenn Zeitz, Coking’s attorney, said Coking settled so she could pay some $25,000 in back taxes - a debt that could cost her the house if not paid by December. He said Coking also needs to repair the house to prevent the city’s demolition department from leveling it.”
http://articles.philly.com/1997-02-19/news/25533159_1_donald-trump-trump-plaza-eminent-domain
“I did something that had never been done before in condemnation work,” Zeitz said. “I filed an answer to that complaint, and then filed a third-party complaint against Trump and against the CRDA, alleging that they were conspiring to violate her civil rights, by taking her property without due process.
“I sued them, and brought Trump into the case,” Zeitz said. “It was, ‘The Widow vs. The Tycoon.’ You want to know what this really was? It was two people with gigantic egos, namely me and Trump...”
http://articles.philly.com/2002-08-20/news/25336318_1_property-owners-vera-coking-casino-reinvestment-development-authority
“Jim Whelan, a frequent Trump critic who served as Atlantic City’s mayor at the time, told NJ Advance Media... “That property was a dump,” Whelan recalled this past week. “... The property was in disrepair. It was a blight on the city.”
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/10/trumps_eminent_domain_comments_recall_1990s_atlantic_city_property_battle.html
The pushed story that a poor old widow woman was being ‘forced from her home’ was a farce - further exposed when Coking listed the tenant house for 5 million. Trump offered (more than) a million and a free apartment for life at a Trump property. (Coking’s building went to auction last year with a $199K starting bid. Icahn bought it).
In retrospect, had Trump not bought Guccioni’s project, Coking would have lost her home to the tax collector. Had the Redevelopment Agency (taxpayers) and/or Trump coughed up the 5 million, it’s easy to speculate Coking might have laughed all the way to the bank in Palm Springs without so much as a backward wave.


29 posted on 04/20/2017 9:38:51 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Bellflower

I see everyone is missing THE POINT.

The premise your so called Friend is making is that Trump is a Meanie because he attempted to use Eminent Domain Laws to develop a Property.

Did Trump write and pass into Law those same Eminent Domain Laws? That would be NO.

Did he pass the Atlantic City Redevelopment Plan?
That would be NO.

A group of Mean and Uncaring Politicians, in the case of New Jersey, typical Democrat Politicians passed the Laws.

Trump was using the Law and when it went to Court, he lost.
He could have offered the Woman Market Price, but Mr. Meanie Trump offered her FOUR TIMES the Value. What a Pig.

The Woman put pride over common sense and she got the deal she wanted in the end, nothing. Boo Friggin Hoo.

Take my advice, cut off your ignorant so called Liberal Friend. They won’t care what you tell them anyway. Facts to Liberals are like Crucifixes to a Vampire.


30 posted on 04/20/2017 9:54:39 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: Chainmail

For some, it is never over. Unless their guy wins.


31 posted on 04/20/2017 10:23:12 PM PDT by sport
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To: blueplum

Hi blueplum, thank you for the great information. I clicked onto the pictures and they all came up and then my computer decided to reboot itself. When I then re clicked onto the pictures only the pictures of a nice looking building came up. I cannot get the pictures of the nasty looking building to come up. Sometimes I think I am being shadowed on the net, as this kind of thing happens all the time. Anyway if you could get the pictures to come up and post them or somehow get them to me I would appreciate it, that is if you can.

My friend is open, but unfortunately he is an avid reader of MSM newspapers and doesn’t do a lot on the net. Therefore, of course, he gets very bad information.


32 posted on 04/24/2017 3:09:55 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus?)
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To: Bellflower

Sure. Here’s the before and after again. This is how the “house” looked before Trump got involved.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2876/12243145186_71315e50ce_z.jpg

This is what the ‘house’ looked like after Trump’s workmen removed the steel superstructure, paved one side and and put in the flagpoles and little park-ette on the other side. Coking had sued to keep the superstructure in place, lost, then sued that the workman made her roof leak, which is how she involved Trump in her lawsuit against the city, who was foreclosing for back taxes.

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/pressofatlanticcity.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/6/a8/6a8ad7a3-1051-5d8e-8b76-df12601b1806/546a548559c1d.image.jpg?resize=730%2C390


33 posted on 04/25/2017 6:52:09 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Bellflower
let me try to do pictures, no guarantees
34 posted on 04/25/2017 7:09:49 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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