Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Help me find info on Donald Trump and eminent domain.
self | 4/20/2017 | self

Posted on 04/20/2017 5:38:11 PM PDT by Bellflower

Can someone please help me find information, or convey information concerning the true story behind Donald Trump and eminent domain as it concerns the grandma in Georgia and her property. A Christian friend, way too influenced by the main stream media, was trying to convince me that DT is an evil, uncaring man with the story about the grandma's property. I was trying to help him understand that DT is a compassionate and caring person.

I remember reading something on FR about the true story, which wasn't anti Trump at all. I told my friend that I would try to find the real story that wasn't negative concerning DT and he was interested in it. Unfortunately when I tried to find it with google all that comes up is highly negative articles about the subject. I would really appreciate it if some of you highly informed freepers can help me inform him concerning what really happened with the eminent domain issue concerning the grandma in Georgia.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; eminentdomain
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last
Thanks for any help ahead of time. References appreciated.
1 posted on 04/20/2017 5:38:11 PM PDT by Bellflower
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Bellflower

I think the case you are thinking about was in Atlantic City NJ. They wanted some woman’s property for a casino parking lot, I believe.


2 posted on 04/20/2017 5:43:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower

http://www.redstate.com/

Donald Trump’s Lame Attempt to Push Back on Eminent Domain

Posted at 3:00 pm on February 15, 2016 by Joe Cunningham

There is a difference between the use of eminent domain for public use and eminent domain for private use.

In normal society, the conversation actually ends there. In normal society, that’s the end of this post. But, we don’t live in a society that recognizes the difference between public good and private gain. There are segments of society – all of whom flock to the banner of Donald Trump, it seems – who believe that these are really the same thing, and that Jeb Bush is a hypocrite for blasting Trump on his use of eminent domain when he himself as governor bought land from private owners.

Take, for example, this person, whose article Trump has been tweeting out today as a lame defense for his support of eminent domain:

During the pre-New Hampshire ABC GOP presidential debate, Bush slammed Donald Trump on eminent domain. He was playing to a clearly hostile anti-Trump crowd, knowing that the Trump supporters only received 20 tickets for the debate. Jeb used eminent domain as a club to bash The Donald, citing a decades-old case of an elderly Atlantic City lady who refused to sell her property to Trump, which he wanted for a parking lot. Atlantic City condemned her property, trying to force her to sell, she challenged the condemnation in court and won. Trump quickly abandoned the idea in favor of more willing neighbors who sold their property to Trump for his parking lot, and he paid them quite well for their properties.

The Atlantic City story is now being repeated over and over again by the neo-cons to try to destroy Mr. Trump. They’re using the tactics of Joseph Goebbels, repeat a lie often enough….and people will eventually believe it.

As Florida Governor, Jeb Bush loved eminent domain and practiced it.

Please note that right away we have a reference to Goebbels, and the tossing about of neo-cons as an insult. Oh boy.

What follows is a series of stories about Jeb Bush’s administration seizing land for wetlands, weathering a deadly crop disease, and something about W. building a stadium in Texas. Of the three stories, one would maybe look askance at the last, of which Jeb had no part.

Jeb Bush as governor was doing things for public interest. There is a notable environmental impact from disappearing wetlands, and does do harm to the state when it happens. The same goes when there is a crop disease that could wipe out a key staple of Florida farmers. That is public good. That is the type of thing the government has to do sometimes. You can also see where the government offered the swamp property owner millions when he paid just $600,000 for the land originally. The government wasn’t out to swindle a guy.

Donald Trump, however, loves eminent domain, and has worked with government bodies to get land taken by the government not for the public good, but for his own private game. The Atlantic City case the aforementioned writer brings up? That wasn’t for the greater benefit of Atlantic City. That was for a limousine parking lot for one of Trump’s buildings. There was nothing about that case that would make you think “You know, it’s wrong to take someone’s land, but damn if Trump didn’t just save Atlantic City.”

Hell, Donald Trump broke Atlantic City.

This is not a difficult concept to understand. In a normal society, I wouldn’t need more than 550 words to explain this. But, a normal society wouldn’t let someone like Donald Trump be a leading presidential candidate either.


3 posted on 04/20/2017 5:44:20 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1AVFC_enUS733US733&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=donald+trump+eminent+domain+vera+coking


4 posted on 04/20/2017 5:44:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

Yeah this was the one thing I opposed which Trump did, or was for.

Not bad statistically, but he was wrong. This ONE time.

:D


5 posted on 04/20/2017 5:46:17 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3449920/That-time-Donald-Trump-saved-family-farm-Widow-s-daughter-campaign-rally-recall-Donald-paid-mom-s-300-000-mortgage-father-committed-suicide.html


6 posted on 04/20/2017 5:47:20 PM PDT by Abby4116
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower
With very wealthy people who want to conduct business-building projects—which, of course create jobs and stimulate economic activity—there will always be conflicts which arise between capital and small private property owners.

As they say, sometimes "you can't stand in the way of progress".

In the case you're referring to, in fact Donald Trump never deprived this woman of her property. But it was not for lack of trying, I guess...

7 posted on 04/20/2017 5:49:16 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower
You are mixing up two stories. He paid off a widow's mortgage in Georgia - link posted above - and the eminent domain thing was in Atlantic City.

He never got the house in AC - woman's grandson finally sold it years later to Ichan for a lot less than The Donald had offered.

8 posted on 04/20/2017 5:49:44 PM PDT by Abby4116
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower

Gosh, Hillary - I thought the election was over..


9 posted on 04/20/2017 5:49:53 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HarleyLady27

Hey hot shit did you bother to read the request? Of course not. Plus this is from Red State a noted Never Trumper site


10 posted on 04/20/2017 5:50:31 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower

Georgia or Atlantic City where he was building a hotel and property was needed.
Try Vera Coking if I remember correctly.


11 posted on 04/20/2017 5:50:56 PM PDT by deport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower

Cut it out, do not waste time messing with libtards.


12 posted on 04/20/2017 5:56:56 PM PDT by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nifster

https://washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp

ibtimes.com/what-eminent-domain-donald-trump-accused

michellemalkin.com/2011/04/22/donald-trumps-eminent

vdare.com/articles/donald-trumps-eminent-domain-empire

ij.org/case/casino-reinvestment-development-auth...

frontpagemag.com/fpm/91155/donald-trumps-eminent-

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/02/08/governor

Should I continue to please you???


13 posted on 04/20/2017 6:00:35 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

Trump has been accused of getting a city in New Jersey to use eminent domain to take a widow’s house from her for a casino parking lot. But Trump never acquired the property and the widow never lived in the property, as it was a rooming house on commercial zoned land. Moreover, Trump offered the owner four times market value and life long occupancy in one of his condos. The owner refused and lost the property twenty years later for half of what Trump offered and Trump lost his casino in bankruptcy. If anything, Trump was way, way overly generous in trying to purchase the property voluntarily. And Trump apparently adhered to the Biblical injunction to care for the widow.


14 posted on 04/20/2017 6:01:16 PM PDT by WayneLusvardi (It's more complex than it might seem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Abby4116

Thank you for helping me out with that. I think that there was a more positive story concerning the one in Atlantic City, wasn’t there? At least there was more to it then the dems are privy to, from my understanding. It was a long time ago and I really paid little attention, but I would like to educate my friend. He seems like someone who shouldn’t be so brain washed.


15 posted on 04/20/2017 6:07:41 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower

Type it in the your search engine and you will all you want.


16 posted on 04/20/2017 6:08:24 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dforest

Agreed concerning most, but I think there might be hope for him.


17 posted on 04/20/2017 6:08:35 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Chainmail

The election is over, but not the fight. There are future elections.

My friend seems like someone who can be convinced. There are still some out there that can be.

Please do not ever, ever call me Hillary. That is uncalled for.


18 posted on 04/20/2017 6:10:26 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower
It was on the Phila. local news nightly - like a soap opera. I don't have the links now but he offered her a lot of money and a home in one of his buildings for life but she turned him down. I've always felt that her lawyer gave her bad advice.

On the one hand it was big vs little, but big was not trying to swindle her.

19 posted on 04/20/2017 6:15:04 PM PDT by Abby4116
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower
And this is a link to Trump himself saying he paid off the mortgage of the people who stopped when him limmo had a flat tire and they changed it. He paid off their mortgage.

link

20 posted on 04/20/2017 6:27:42 PM PDT by Abby4116
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson