Posted on 04/14/2017 3:57:55 AM PDT by Nextrush
A federal jury started deliberations Thursday in the conspiracy trial of six people charged in the 2014 standoff in Bunkerville.
Jurors received the case after a prosecutor finished his closing argument with a searing assertion that the six men on trial 'put the fear of God' in law enforcement officers who were impounding rancher Cliven Bundy's cattle.
"For what? For some cattle? For someone who hasn't paid grazing fees in 20 years?" bellowed Acting U.S. Attorney Steven Myhre. "Or because it made them feel like they're somebody in a moment in time?"
Defense attorneys in their agruments, insisted their clients had no knowledge of a conspiracy to threaten, intimidate or extort federal agents.....
Defense Attorney Rich Tanasi, who represents Steven Stewart, said his client went to Bunkerville "not to commit crimes, not to assault federal officers, but to exercise his First Amendment right to protest..and he did so with his Second Amendment right."
Federal prosecutors posed as documentary filmmakers to draw statements from some of the defendants...
Defense (attorney Todd) Leventhal referenced the voluminous evidence from the day of the standoff. "Over 18,500 documents, 170,000 pages, thousands of hours of video..After all the evidence, they decide to go undercover again," he said. "Why else would FBI agents spend the time, the resources? Because they don't have more.".........
(Excerpt) Read more at reviewjournal.com ...
Supporters of the defendants marched outside the federal courthouse in Las Vegas yesterday shouting "jury nullification".
The jury continues its deliberations Monday.
Take note the lead prosecutor in this case Steven Myhre, is now the Acting US Attorney in Las Vegas. He's in that position because the Obama US Attorney has resigned.
Myhre is planning a trial sometime after June 5th this year for a second group of defendants including Cliven Bundy and his sons Ammon and Ryan.
When will Mr. Sessions appoint a new US Attorney in Vegas and shut down the prosecution-persecution of the Bundy's and their supporters?
Now separately, we might discuss (1) federal ownership of the lands (which I think is good), (2) use of those lands (free and paid), which is good, and if paid, should be at value market will bear. Speaking of grazing, there has never been shortage of cattle and sheep ranchers willing to pay.
And these people charged with armed conspiracy, throw the book at them. They were defending thieves, acting as an armed gang. No sympathy for them.
I certainly pray they’ve at least heard the word ... NULLIFY.
If they’re federal lands .... they’re not “ours”
Reno, you are a left wing Government shill and don’t know what you aare talking about. Part of the problem is the oppoosition to your ignorant stance is made up of anti government Mormons which ileaves America with a no win situation,
Speaking of not knowing what you are talking about. I applaud your perception of Reno’s stance on the issue whether he gets it or not. The rest of your comments make no sense at all. The Bundy’s are not anti-government nor were the good folks who came to assist them and the Bundy’s did their best to screen those who came to keep out the very people you are talking about.
I would contend that the most anti-government folks there were those who came as informants in an attempt to trap, those the FBI viewed as anti-government who were anything but. Out of control alphabet agencies such as the EPA, BLM, Forest Service, FBI, etc, and their unconstitutional efforts to subjugate, control, and eliminate ranchers from certain federal lands has been an important issue since the seventies and the Sage Brush Rebellion.
http://www.hcn.org/articles/sagebrush-rebellion
I have not gone through all of the articles linked, but there are some good and some I would consider viewed more from your present perspective.
“Govt lands”? BLM? Well, I guess it worked for the (native) Indians, right? /s
Doubt the ‘judge’ or prosecutors would allow a reading of the Constitution...
Hedley Lamarr: Wait a minute... there might be legal precedent. Of course! Land-snatching!
[grabs a law book]
Land, land... “Land: see Snatch.”
[flips back several pages]
Ah, Haley vs. United States. Haley: 7, United States: nothing. You see, it can be done
Sure they will, and they would correctly point you to the "property clause" of the constitution.
But you are like all the other poorly educated and incorrectly maintain that the "enclave clause" applies.
Knee-jerk insults, dismissing me as left-wing, etc., when I am not, show unwillingness to debate the points. Guess you want a band of yes-people to echo-chamber your anti-government hostilities?
A shame really, since there are meaningful discussions on several topics:
So, instead of insults and trying to shut down conversation or inconvenient points, why don't you engage in a conversation, answer questions, not distract with anti-government BS?
From what I read early on in all this, the Bundy family grazing rights predate the BLM and run with their land. It’s like having mineral rights, they don’t own the ground, just grazing rights. The BLM was supposed to maintain and enhance the grazing on the land. Once they failed to do so in favor of turtles and Harry Reids interests, they stopped paying the fees.
I suppose that rubs your overbearing big government fur backwards, tough crap. And yeah, you can do your own research on it.
That was debunked a long time ago, which is why it’s not mention much by anybody anymore.
I’ll have to look into it.
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“Doubt the judge or prosecutors would allow a reading of the constitution”
Sure they will, and they would correctly point you to the “property clause” of the constitution.
But you are like all the other poorly educated and incorrectly maintain that the “enclave clause” applies.
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Well, bless your heart.
Yes, the magical clause(s) that supersede the rest of the text in entirety. Surprised you didn’t whip out the ol’ ‘Commerce Clause’ as well. Guess it’s what I should suspect, we’ve long been a dead Republic.
But, you are correct in one point. I was poorly educated in the publik skool system. Luckily, I was still taught to read and strive to correct that deficiency, to comprehend; you may have missed that last part with your ‘ivy league’ learnins. Or just dropped on your head.
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