Nowadays all ships except ACs look sorta like this. Kind of the new (ugly) Cadillac with all those angular lines.
Looks better on a ship than a car.
Posted on 03/28/2017 5:52:25 AM PDT by C19fan
Much has been made about America's so-called "icebreaker gap"—Russia has roughly 40 with many more in production while the US has one that is operational—and we have talked extensively about how the frigid arctic is likely to be a contested territory and battlefield of the future. But Russia isn't just building more icebreakers or ice-capable logistics ships—they are also building fighting ships that can go independently where few other surface combatant can, and carry much heavier firepower while doing so.
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I thought the ice disappeared due to global warming?
Real question: Why the concern about Arctic naval combat? what’s up there worth fighting extreme ice & cold just to get to fighting people? Northern Canada & Russia don’t seem places many people are interested in conquering. Arm up to protect the frontier just because it’s there? or because there is something there worth protecting?
I’ll bet they have a special ‘magazine’ for a good supply of vodka. It gets purdy dang cold up there.
Nowadays all ships except ACs look sorta like this. Kind of the new (ugly) Cadillac with all those angular lines.
Looks better on a ship than a car.
>>what’s up there worth fighting extreme ice & cold just to get to fighting people? <<
FWIU, oil and natural gas. Lots of it.
World hegemony. There’s heck of a lot of oil underneath for one thing. And to insure that American and Canadian territorial sovereignty remains secure.
Please delete as duplicate post.
This is part of Russia's strategic military and economic interests in the region. They've been committed to this for a long time.
Our subs can go below the ice and can sink the surface ships. Right?
what’s up there worth fighting extreme ice & cold just to get to fighting people?
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Think of oil, gas, minerals, trade routes, military bases. There is a lot of info out there on Russia’s Artic strategy that examines why they are doing this.
Our subs can go below the ice and can sink the surface ships. Right?
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Yes, but its a challenging operational environment and its in Russia’s “back yard” so to speak.
OIL. The russkies are trying to corner the oil “fields” known or suspected to lie under the ice.
Yeah, really! What do we need icebreakers for, given that global warming/climate change/(insert latest BS term here) is making the polar ice disappear...?
Oil.
Lots of it.
All of you answered "oil".
But you missed the real value of the region:
99.99% of the worlds ice-cubes are RIGHT THERE.
Mixed drinks will quadruple in price if Russia takes the region.
This is about locking up the ownership of potentially rich oil fields, most of which are under water and or ice. They want to establish the historic precedent that they own it so that when it becomes possible to drill for oil and mine for minerals nobody can contest them.
Man, you’re right! How could I have missed that?
I guess I’d just have to drink my Blanton’s, Four Roses or Basil Hayden’s neat...
Hmmm. Didn't Obama recently make a trip to the Arctic Circle ?
And, the Clintons are trying to figure out an ice cube kickback...
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