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Suggestions For Loosening Frozen Machine Screws?
Free Republic ^ | 12 March 2017 | Windy

Posted on 03/12/2017 9:53:29 PM PDT by Windflier

I'm trying to replace a broken shaft in my sheet metal extrusion machine, but I've run into some machine screws that just will not budge.

They're 3/16th, Allen type, steel screws, mounted in an aluminum block. They have a patina of rust on them, and I already broke a new bit trying to bust the first one loose. I sprayed them all with WD-40, and gave it an hour or two to soak in, but still no go.

Anyone know of a better lubricating product, or some trick I can use to get these suckers to turn?


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KEYWORDS: banglist; kroil; mechanical; wrenching
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The screw heads are bugle shaped, and sit flush to the surface of the aluminum block, if that helps.

Thanks in advance.

1 posted on 03/12/2017 9:53:30 PM PDT by Windflier
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To: Windflier

Drill and replace.


2 posted on 03/12/2017 9:54:11 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Windflier

You probably already did it, but I finally learned to tighten first and then loosen.


3 posted on 03/12/2017 9:56:21 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Windflier

Kroil. It is a penetrant but superior to all others. Not cheap but it works where others don’t.


4 posted on 03/12/2017 9:57:03 PM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: Windflier

Torque them in the tightening direction momentarily then reverse torque with “impulse”. Repeat a few times as necessary.


5 posted on 03/12/2017 9:58:00 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: bigbob

I, too, use Kroil. Nothing like it.


6 posted on 03/12/2017 9:58:09 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (A Irredeemable Deplorable Texan)
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To: Windflier

Repeated thermal cycling. Impact extractors. Make sure not a lefthanded thread.


7 posted on 03/12/2017 10:00:16 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: skr

Try Kroil expesive and hard to find or Marvel Mystery Oil


8 posted on 03/12/2017 10:00:28 PM PDT by pcpa
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Torque them in the tightening direction momentarily then reverse torque with “impulse”. Repeat a few times as necessary.

Thanks, guys. I'll give that a try.

9 posted on 03/12/2017 10:00:45 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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A blast from a propane torch or heat gun? The aluminum of the part should expand a bit faster than the steel of the screw, no? You might have to heat while exerting torque on the screws. If you don’t want top apply heat or think it might do damage, then get a block of scrap aluminum (or brass) and clamp it to your piece with no gap, you may be able to whack it with a medium hammer while applying torque to the screw but hitting the block, you won’t gall up the surface of your machine.


10 posted on 03/12/2017 10:02:53 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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11 posted on 03/12/2017 10:02:58 PM PDT by servo1969
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Drill and replace.

Thanks, but it would be easier for me to replace the whole assembly. I might do that, if I can't get the Allen screws out.

12 posted on 03/12/2017 10:04:16 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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PB blaster or ATF and acetone.
soak and tap on them for a good while, leave over night.
Aluminium is soft and galls easily jaming them, worse than
stainless steel. When you put them in use a good anti-seize
and you won’t have this problem.


13 posted on 03/12/2017 10:04:29 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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A dremel and a nut cracker is all you need. Cut the nuts close to the threads and then snap them off. Takes some time but easy peasy. You could drill them. You could try PB Blaster overnight soaked and I mean soaked wrapped in shop rags. Sounds like you have bimetal corrosion.


14 posted on 03/12/2017 10:04:55 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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Nuke it from Orbit...it’s the only way to be sure.


15 posted on 03/12/2017 10:05:00 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Try a little heat. They could be secured by loctite, or seized, either way some heat could break them loose.


16 posted on 03/12/2017 10:05:32 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: bigbob
Kroil.

Would I find that in a hardware store, or an automotive store? Much appreciated.

17 posted on 03/12/2017 10:06:01 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-92829168286678/liquid-wrench-super-penetrating-oil-11-oz-areosol-3.png


18 posted on 03/12/2017 10:06:10 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Paladin2
Repeated thermal cycling. Impact extractors. Make sure not a lefthanded thread.

Correct on all three counts. You might also hit them by putting something into the allen wrench socket and hitting the end of them to break them loose (don't hit too hard) which is called "warming them up". The impact extractors would also do that for you. Also, think about the concept of reverse thread. Best wishes.

19 posted on 03/12/2017 10:06:21 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Have an ISIS guy take a selfie next to the screw
20 posted on 03/12/2017 10:07:14 PM PDT by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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