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To: tired&retired

How could she have been surprised by NC? Obama lost it in 12, was she really that delusional to believe she was going to take it??? Not only that, but the early voting numbers by party breakdown were available from NC long before Tuesday and it was obvious that NC was a pipe dream and always had been for Dems.... I don’t understand how she could have been upset of NC unless she was being actively and completely lied to by her staff.

NC was a PIPE DREAM, for Hillary, from DAY ONE! And any delusions that it wasn’t was put to bed after the early voting party breakdowns were looked at, and that was available long before Tuesday night.

NC was never in play... not for a moment... the only way she could be upset with NC is if she thought she had some sort of fix that was going to show up and didn’t.


29 posted on 03/02/2017 6:12:04 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

I think that whatever hopes she had in NC went up in smoke with the BLM riots in Charlotte.


59 posted on 03/02/2017 6:29:02 AM PST by 31R1O
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To: HamiltonJay
the only way she could be upset with NC is if she thought she had some sort of fix that was going to show up and didn’t

Cooper, the new NC Democrat Guv, won his election based on a massive swing of votes that were "found" at the last minute.

Interestingly, this swing didn't change the results of the other races, one bit (I was watching). Now, I read this article. Makes me wonder.....

115 posted on 03/02/2017 7:16:38 AM PST by wbill
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To: HamiltonJay

She thought it was in play because the Democrats had been actively working to PUT it in play for years. If you’ll recall, a liberal panel of judges struck down the voter ID law just weeks before actual voting was to begin (it was in place for the primaries). Plus, the Dems manufactured a controversy (initially in Charlotte) with the transgender bathroom issue, which the State Republicans blocked with HB2. This became a national issue, with the uber-liberal entertainment, corporate and college-sports “industries” pulling, or threatening to pull out of North Carolina. This was supported and followed dutifully by the propaganda media in Charlotte and Raleigh editorializing about the negative economic impacts on the State “caused” by the GOP.

There are also uber-liberal pockets (bastions!) in Chapel Hill, Raleigh, Durham, Asheville, & Boone - not coincidentally the sites of the major universities in-State. These folks are reliably and militantly Democrat voters, and always have been.

In the end, the State was tight-enough that, although Trump won, the Republican governor lost.


125 posted on 03/02/2017 7:47:39 AM PST by Be Free (I believe in gun control. The more people that control their own guns, the safer we'll all be.)
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To: HamiltonJay
unless she was being actively and completely lied to by her staff.

Would you want to be the staffer that told her the truth about NC? I believe I read a story shortly after the election that said the volunteers and staffers in the Midwest were seeing some big movement toward Trump by the end of the campaign. They tried to tell her campaign staff that something was happening out there; but, they were dismissed and the campaign staff were relying on the numbers from their polling people.

It doesn't help to have a "good ground game", if you fail to believe what the people "on the ground" are telling you.

139 posted on 03/02/2017 8:40:17 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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