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The German Wiesel Is a Cute Mini-Tank
War is Boring ^ | January 25, 2017 | Robert Beckhusen

Posted on 01/25/2017 7:22:14 AM PST by C19fan

In 1972, the German military embarked on a program to replace its lightweight and air-dropped Kraka quadbikes used to move paratroopers after they hit the ground. The result of this effort was the Wiesel, a cute, unusual tracked armored vehicle and a modern equivalent of the tankette, a type of tank which largely went out of fashion during World War II.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: armored; germany; tanks
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What an embarrassment for a country that produced the Panther and Tiger tanks.
1 posted on 01/25/2017 7:22:14 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

It would be a cool toy


2 posted on 01/25/2017 7:24:38 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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We had a platoon of 106MM gun jeeps in ‘73


3 posted on 01/25/2017 7:25:41 AM PST by Insigne123
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You get to annoy people with a Wiesel 1 in the game Armored Warfare by My.com


4 posted on 01/25/2017 7:28:04 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: C19fan

A friend of mine has a genuine 1945 WWII Folding Paratrooper Bicycle. Very cool.


5 posted on 01/25/2017 7:28:05 AM PST by freedomlover
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You overlooked “lightweight and air-dropped” as being two of the requirements of the Wiesel. Panther & Tiger tanks were definitely NOT “air-droppable” or planned for it. The Wiesel was used as a reconnaissance vehicle for Leopard tank units. One recon version carried a 20mm cannon. It was also used by their artillery forward observers, at the time when I was running around Germany in my M-151 jeep as my Forward Observer’s vehicle. There were other variants designed as light anti-tank missile (TOW, HOT & Milan) and anti-aircraft missile (Stinger) platforms.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiesel_AWC


6 posted on 01/25/2017 7:28:18 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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Embarrassment?
The Krauts were INNOVATORS, if nothing else.

This is just another innovation that fills a niche that other nations ignored.


7 posted on 01/25/2017 7:29:51 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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As tanks have gotten bigger and heavier, and become larger targets, there was an opening for smaller vehicles. Looks like a good alternative to an armored up Humvee.


8 posted on 01/25/2017 7:30:58 AM PST by PAR35
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How about an unarmed version? Think swarms of them.


9 posted on 01/25/2017 7:31:36 AM PST by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp: Replace Ryan & McConnell; Primry Lyn' Ted and others.)
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To: freedomlover

That post is meaningless without pics. :-)


10 posted on 01/25/2017 7:33:41 AM PST by Zarro (Oh, we don't call them the "MSM" any longer; they are now the "Basket of Detestables")
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To: GreyFriar

That 20mm weapon the Germans use is not a joke.High rate of fire and very high muzzle velocity.


11 posted on 01/25/2017 7:37:19 AM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: C19fan

12 posted on 01/25/2017 7:40:35 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: C19fan
It can be carried to where it's needed, slung under a helicopter. An Abrams will have problems getting around many areas of the world, because its weight exceeds to design limits of most bridges in the Third world.

Weisel on the right.

It's also probably considerably cheaper than an Abrams, so you can have a lot of them. Now, visualize a remotely controlled, unmanned version of this, staying in front of the infantry.

13 posted on 01/25/2017 7:41:56 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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Why have small tanks [armored vehicles] when for 5 times the cost, you can have just as many large tanks?

Under the assumption that strategic mobility is irrelevant, who cars if you can deploy small tanks with C-130s? Just replace the C-130s with C-5s. There’s no limit to how much money we can spend to defend foreign countries.

Under the assumption that you don’t need to operate in urban areas or in hilly terrain, that main battle tanks have limited mobility in those places isn’t a problem.

And why use small yet fast armored vehicles in reconnaissance and screening missions? Every battle is against a force equipped with main battle tanks. Who needs reconnaissance and screening.

By this kind of thinking, the Japanese invested in a small number Yamato-class battleships, instead of dozens or even hundreds of destroyers.

The Germans built small numbers of Tiger tanks (and heavier) that totally out-classed our M-4 Shermans and even Russia’s T-34, but were impossible to maintain, simply by-passed on the battlefield, or were swarmed.

And let’s not forget the F-35. A magnificent plane. Designed to achieve air dominance. To kill enemy planes over the horizon when supported by ground, air and space-based radars. But, of very limited range, time over target, or munitions capability (except when its stealth is compromised).

Yes, let’s put all our eggs in that basket and let the Army and Marines figure out how to provide their own fire support now that they’ve lost their organic artillery and tac air. And let’s let the Navy figure out how it’s going to fight in a high threat environment with littoral combat vessel that are prohibited from entering threat environments and carriers that have no stand-off.


14 posted on 01/25/2017 7:46:57 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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Mini tanks, small arms proof that go where tanks or wheeled vehicles can’t mounted woth tow launchers and anti air craft missiles could chew up the rear lines.

Interesting.


15 posted on 01/25/2017 7:49:58 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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"You overlooked “lightweight and air-dropped” as being two of the requirements of the Wiesel. Panther & Tiger tanks were definitely NOT “air-droppable” or planned for it."

Imagine the Luftwaffe doing that with a Me 323 Gigant and a Tiger tank:

It would have been epic, succeed or fail.

16 posted on 01/25/2017 7:50:39 AM PST by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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To: Zarro

since you asked ;)

17 posted on 01/25/2017 7:51:46 AM PST by freedomlover
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Imagine having that slung over your neck while you jumped into the darkness. Not for Pajamaboys.


18 posted on 01/25/2017 7:54:50 AM PST by freedomlover
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I like it! Thanks!


19 posted on 01/25/2017 7:56:39 AM PST by Zarro (Oh, we don't call them the "MSM" any longer; they are now the "Basket of Detestables")
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To: C19fan

Kind of a throwback to the Ontos.


20 posted on 01/25/2017 7:56:56 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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