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To: DiogenesLamp; SoCal Pubbie

There’s a huge delta between bad policies and ideological drive.

There’s plenty of bad policies during the civil war, but there is no drumbeat during that time period that aims at big government simply for the existence of big government. That’s all progressivism, and doesn’t appear until the age of Theodore and Woodrow at the turn of the century.


13 posted on 01/13/2017 9:05:43 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
There’s plenty of bad policies during the civil war, but there is no drumbeat during that time period that aims at big government simply for the existence of big government.

That is why it is the origin of big government. After tasting it, some found it to their liking, and the government simply grew larger and more intrusive thereafter.

That’s all progressivism, and doesn’t appear until the age of Theodore and Woodrow at the turn of the century.

On our national scale, it started with a race obsessed Liberal Lawyer from Illinois. Lincoln grew the Federal government into a monster. Woodrow Wilson simply nourished the little monster that Lincoln had birthed.

15 posted on 01/13/2017 9:12:38 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ProgressingAmerica
>>drumbeat during that time period that aims at big government simply for the existence of big government.

When Abraham Lincoln arrived in the capital in 1861, he soon learned that his campaign managers had promised more positions in the cabinet than could be accomodated.

As the President slyly put it, "There are too many pigs for the tits."

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>>and doesn’t appear until the age of Theodore and Woodrow at the turn of the century.

In North America you mean, maybe?

Meanwhile, quacking, waddling, and assuming dominion over the faith and resources of others down South...

http://duckduckgo.com/?q=Jesuits+Reductions+Paraguay

Oh look - "progressive" collectivist duck!

28 posted on 01/13/2017 11:11:22 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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