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To: MHT
The two most important things I left with were that I was responsible for making my life the mess it was and that being a “victim” was a choice.

This aspect of it is what I'm interested in.

I listened to the (audio only) video that's linked above last night, and some of the things Mr. Erhard said about responsibility and getting over yourself resonated for me, across all the decades.

Did you achieve within yourself any insights that led to improved problem-solving skills? Or was it more fundamental than that, that the problem you learned to solve was your own resistance to problem solving?

14 posted on 12/01/2016 6:09:15 PM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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I did it. It was mind control and brainwashing tactics for sure, they manipulated the temperature in the room to be super freezing or super hot, they “hypnotized” you, an amalgam of TM and The Secret. It is group think, and new age type of self realization stuff. It was a money making scheme with weirdos at the helm, as was a lot of that stuff. There is a follow up called The Forum. Friends of mine who kept going in it to the higher levels are quite judgmental of others, and think they know it all. And that bathroom thing I think was to show you hey if I can control my own body I can control anything....I think. I wouldn’t recommend it.


101 posted on 12/01/2016 7:50:15 PM PST by hulagirl (High Horse Drifter)
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To: Steely Tom

I did it. It was mind control and brainwashing tactics for sure, they manipulated the temperature in the room to be super freezing or super hot, they “hypnotized” you, an amalgam of TM and The Secret. It is group think, and new age type of self realization stuff. It was a money making scheme with weirdos at the helm, as was a lot of that stuff. There is a follow up called The Forum. Friends of mine who kept going in it to the higher levels are quite judgmental of others, and think they know it all. And that bathroom thing I think was to show you hey if I can control my own body I can control anything....I think. I wouldn’t recommend it.


103 posted on 12/01/2016 7:52:57 PM PST by hulagirl (High Horse Drifter)
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My family was literally dysfunctional...not just in a Psych 101-way where it is claimed that 95% of families are “dysfunctional”. My family literally could not meet basic requirements. I lived with my grandmother across the street from my parents’ house because my mother could not get up in the morning in time to get a couple of kids off to school. She would stay up half the night watching old movies, get to bed, and wake up at noon, just like a teen-ager on summer vacation. To escape I went to a college 1500 miles away but really didn’t have the skills to successfully handle academic responsibility. I graduated and stayed there but had a low-paying job, lousy boyfriends, and decent female friends. Est made me realize that I had to take charge of my life. I also realized that my mother had never taken responsibility for even taking care of herself (my father did the laundry, cooking, etc.). Through this insight I was able separate do-era from users.


121 posted on 12/01/2016 8:46:10 PM PST by MHT (,`)
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