Posted on 11/21/2016 12:38:31 AM PST by RC one
From my “about” page...
I will know the Republic is safe when:
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3. The idea of releasing a person onto the street while denying him, under color of law, an otherwise lawful means of self-defense, is looked upon as not merely a violation of his rights as a human being, but also an act of barbarous cruelty on a par with throwing a paralytic into a swimming pool without a floatation vest.
The likelihood of that is small.
I grew up in NY and lived in Manhattan until I was 30 (long ago).
If the People of New York want to legislate themselves into bondage, that's their business.
But, MY rights as a US citizen are not up for their foolishness. NONRESIDENT CCW is a must.
I think it missed one, though it is an outlier.
The most important element of gun ownership is that it is utilitarian. Form follows function. But once that need is met, there comes a need for aesthetics, surrendering *some* utilitarianism for attractiveness and ergonomics.
This goes to the collectibles market. Most gun owners associate collectibility with just age or reputation. But many high value collectible guns are individuals, one of a kind, distinguished by their owners or made noteworthy by their appearance.
As example, today we have laser engraving that can turn a handgun or rifle into a work of art far more elaborate than could be done by hand.
And this means that new guns can be used as attractive *rewards* for distinguished service, or reflective of a place or thing part of that service.
This leads to something President Trump could do. To take guns and ammunition out of the FDR realm of “interstate commerce”. That is, if a gun and ammo are manufactured in a state, for exclusive use in that state, they should be outside the regulatory actions of the ATF.
Or is the thought of a Soros / Øbama inspired civil war the overriding factor?
I would love to be optimistic, but President Trump hasn’t actually done anything yet.
Hold the feet of the President and congress to the fire.
Quite right, which is why I commented in post #47.
Absolutely.
4. Since CCW holders have already been vetted, allow direct shipments to them from FFLs after sending in a 4473 (we can discuss that need after).
5. As per above, allow CCW holders to purchase handguns over-the-counter in a different state.
I did not realize how prejudiced against handgun ownership my NYS experience had left me, although I had lots of training in weapons from my six-year Army National Guard committment.
When I saw that I could just walk into a Virginia hardware store and buy a handgun without going through the rigamarole of having to get a premises permit even to buy it for home use, I was non-plussed!
Then, when I moved to Delaware a few years later it didn't get across to me right away that here I could just go out and buy a handgun for personal use. But after I was laid off and had time on my hand, I took up handgun shooting at the club as a pastime.
Thus, it took me about ten years to overcome my "New Yorker" dismissal of naturally instinctive personal ownership of handguns that had been drilled into me.
In NY, I never was made to think there was any problem with a responsible person owning any long gun. Most of my NY friends had at least a shotgun or rifle, and maybe several, according to their pocketbook. When I first started dating my wife, we went into the local sports store, and each of us bought a .22 rifle so we could shoot together. Her father was trained as a machinist and did some gun-smithing.
I agree with you. Just as auto operation is universal, my reasoning tells me that concealed carry ought to also be universal throughout the realm. If a person can be trusted to manage a two-ton behemoth at high speeds on a public highway (after passing a driving exam), why not owning and carrying a personal protective device? I think that would cause the potential rapist, wife-abuser, car-jacker, or bully to give his/her propensities a second thought. As you well know, an armed society tends to be a well-mannered one, eh?
However, my viewpoint is that if the individual shows poor judgment and his possession makes him a danger to others, his right as a mature citizen to carry a gun--as in operating a car or truck--ought to be restricted or taken away.
I trust him on this issue. He owes the NRA and the Christian coalition. There’s no way he effs his frontline stormtroopers when it comes time to appoint justices. We have his back. he has ours. and we’ll have his back again in 2020 and beyond.
Of course. and the war never truly ends but I think we’re sitting pretty good for a while so I’m mostly curious about how folks will be spending their gun dollars now that we have won this pivotal election. I don’t think most of us need to stockpile anything anymore. I think we can actually enjoy our hobby for a while. So what’s interesting to you these days?
If I could find one that could cook and do a little light housework, I’d marry it!
Certainly hope so!
It’s damn near Morning in America!
#2 would make #4 redundant. Before GCA868 you could buy firearms by mail-order and have them delivered to your house by the US Postal Service.
#3 would eliminate the need for a “CCW”, since the2nd Amendment says the right to carry shall not be infringed.
Fat fingers.
GCA68.
Or they figured that problem would resolve itself in an armed society. Mentally ill people are just as capable of getting a gun as criminals, laws don't stop that.
OK, points taken. I was thinking of half-steps to those ends.
May they all come to pass.
The liberal fascists globalists and muzzie cabal remains a threat. Keep a high and deep stock of ammo and weapons at ready.
Their plot to steal the election with illegal voters, lack of voter identification issues, and blatant fraud would have brought horrors not seen in this country since 1860s. Obozo and DNC appendages were pushing this for years. Fortunately it failed and wasn’t enough.
My personal belief it may be a possibility the muzzie refugees and illegals who are radical pisslam adherents brought in from the white mosque would pull a Tet offensive type mass attack across the country, in effort to destroy the Trump presidency in another plot by these liberal fascist/globalist/muzzie cabal scumbags. Be vigilant, ignore anti-2nd amendment sign foliage, keep stockpiling and stay armed to the teeth.
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