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To: LIConFem

NY, CA will take minimally 1 to 1.5 generations. Especially CA, it is completely gone.


9 posted on 11/12/2016 9:36:03 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (I had a cool idea for a new tagline and I forgot it!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
CA has many, many white, middle class voters who are essentially apolitical, with libertarian (not really liberal) sensibilities. Many do not bother to vote because they think it makes no difference. They can be reached and turned out if they come to believe government is an existential threat to their incomes and lifestyles. They voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2002, for example, because Gray Davis overreached so much he got their attention. They occasionally pass conservative ballot propositions, even now.

Since the CA GOP is the beating heart of RINO-dom and completely happy to keep the scraps they now have, it is going to be hard to put together a coherent ground game to start undermining Leftist groupthink there. Trump might be able to do it, but I think it will take more time - and ultimately more of a Ron Paul-like figure to appeal to them. Find a libertarian-talking, good-looking, 45-ish, Hollywood actor to run as a Republican and he could easily sweep the state - especially if he is Hispanic.

24 posted on 11/12/2016 10:12:10 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

What percentage of CA Blue votes are deportable? Trump can make it closer. He can also stop the rest of the country from funding, federally, some of the nonsense that attracts the non-deportable ones there. The half-life of fully self-funded liberalism is short.


27 posted on 11/12/2016 10:24:16 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Changes)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

If we had to show valid citizenship ID, CA would be redder.


34 posted on 11/12/2016 11:09:40 AM PST by Yaelle
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