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"So I deleted tens of thousands of e-mails after they
were subpoenaed. At this point what difference does
it make?"

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3 posted on 10/16/2016 6:13:42 AM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!!)
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From CNN, July 2016...

This was not his first time investigating the Clintons [Comey]

Nor his second. The email server probe marked the third time Comey has investigated Bill or Hillary Clinton.

His first run-in came in the mid-1990s, when he joined the Senate Whitewater Committee as a deputy special counsel. There he dug into allegations that the Clintons took part in a fraud connected to a Arkansas real estate venture gone bust. No charges were ever brought against either Clinton..."

"In 2002, Comey, then a federal prosecutor, took over an investigation into President Bill Clinton's 2001 pardon of financier Marc Rich, who had been indicted on a laundry list of charges before fleeing the country . ..."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/07/politics/who-is-james-comey-fbi-director-things-to-know/index.html
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"The Whitewater controversy (also known as the Whitewater scandal, or simply Whitewater) began with investigations into the real estate investments of Bill and Hillary Clinton and their associates, Jim and Susan McDougal, in the Whitewater Development Corporation, a failed business venture in the 1970s and 1980s."

Whitewater Convictions

Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, removed from office (fraud, 3 counts)

John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)

William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)

Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.

Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)

Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)

Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.

David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)

Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)

Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.

Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)

Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.

John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)

Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)

Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)

Ultimately the Clintons were never charged, but 15 other persons were convicted of more than 40 crimes, including Bill Clinton's successor as Governor, who was removed from office.[40]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_%28controversy%29#Convictions

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https://web.archive.org/web/20090326122112/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_%28controversy%29

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5 posted on 10/16/2016 6:14:46 AM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!!)
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White House FBI files controversy

The revelations provoked a strong political and press reaction because many of the files covered White House employees from previous Republican administrations, including top presidential advisors.

Under criticism, Livingstone resigned from his position.

Allegations were made that senior White House figures, including First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, may have requested and read the files for political purposes, and that the First Lady had authorized the hiring of the underqualified Livingstone.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_FBI_files_controversy

6 posted on 10/16/2016 6:15:10 AM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!!)
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Miss Hah Hah should wear a clown suit to the next debate.


7 posted on 10/16/2016 6:15:19 AM PDT by jetson
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8 posted on 10/16/2016 6:19:57 AM PDT by eaglestar
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The Idiot's Guide to Chinagate

By Richard Poe
May 26, 2003

CHINA WILL LIKELY replace the USA as world leader, said Bill Clinton in a recent Washington Post interview. It is just a matter of time. Clinton should know. He has personally done more to build China's military strength than any man on earth.

Most Americans have heard of the so-called "Chinagate " scandal. Few understand its deadly import, however. Web sites such as "Chinagate for Dummies" and its companion "More Chinagate for Dummies" offer some assistance. Unfortunately, with a combined total of nearly 8,000 words, these two sites - like so many others of the genre - offer more detail than most of us "dummies" can absorb.

For that reason, in the 600 words left in this column, I will try to craft my own "Idiot's Guide to Chinagate," dedicated to all those busy folks like you and me whose attention span tends to peter out after about 750 words.

Here goes.

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, China presented little threat to the United States. Chinese missiles "couldn't hit the side of a barn," notes Timothy W. Maier of Insight magazine. Few could reach North America and those that made it would likely miss their targets.

Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now hit any city in the USA, using state-of-the-art, solid-fueled missiles with dead-accurate, computerized guidance systems and multiple warheads.

China probably has suitcase nukes as well. These enable China to strike by proxy - equipping nuclear-armed terrorists to do their dirty work, while the Chinese play innocent. Some intelligence sources claim that China maintains secret stockpiles of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons on U.S. soil, for just such contingencies.

In 1997, Clinton allowed China to take over the Panama Canal. The Chinese company Hutchison Whampoa leased the ports of Cristobal and Balboa, on the east and west openings of the canal respectively, thus controlling access both ways. A public outcry stopped Clinton in 1998 from leasing California's Long Beach Naval Yard to the Chinese firm COSCO. Even so, China can now strike U.S. targets easily from their bases in Panama, Vancouver and the Bahamas.

How did China catch up so fast? Easy. We sold them all the technology they needed - or handed it over for free.

Neither neglect nor carelessness are to blame. Bill Clinton did it on purpose.

As a globalist, Clinton promotes "multipolarity"-the doctrine that no country (such as the USA) should be allowed to gain decisive advantage over others.

To this end, Clinton appointed anti-nuclear activist Hazel O'Leary to head the Department of Energy. O'Leary set to work "leveling the playing field," as she put it, by giving away our nuclear secrets. She declassified 11 million pages of data on U.S. nuclear weapons and loosened up security at weapons labs.

Federal investigators later concluded that China made off with the "crown jewels"of our nuclear weapons research under Clinton's open-door policy - probably including design specifications for suitcase nukes.

Meanwhile, Clinton and his corporate cronies raked in millions.

In his book The China Threat, Washington Times correspondent Bill Gertz describes how the system worked. Defense contractors eager to sell technology to China poured millions of dollars into Clinton's campaign. In return, Clinton called off the dogs. Janet Reno and other counterintelligence officials stood down while Lockheed Martin, Hughes Electronics, Loral Space & Communications and other U.S. companies helped China modernize its nuclear strike force.

"We like your president. We want to see him reelected," former Chinese intelligence chief General Ji Shengde told Chinagate bagman Johnny Chung.

Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the 1996 election Clinton's way.

Clinton's top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top donors in 1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China.

Clinton received funding directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them James and Mochtar Riady who own the Indonesian Lippo Group; John Huang; Charlie Trie; Ted Sioeng; Maria Hsia; Wang Jun and others.

Commerce Secretary Ron Brown served as Clinton's front man in many Chinagate deals. When investigators began probing Brown’s Lippo Group and Chinagate connections, Brown died suddenly in a suspicious April 1996 plane crash.

Needless to say, China does not share Clinton's enthusiasm for globalism or multipolarity. The Chinese look out for Number One.

"War [with the United States] is inevitable; we cannot avoid it," said Chinese Defense Minister General Chi Haotian in 2000. "The issue is that the Chinese armed forces must control the initiative in this war."

Bill Clinton has given them a good start.

The Idiot's Guide to Chinagate:
http://web.archive.org/web/20031001210123/http://www.richardpoe.com/column.cgi?story=125

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Richard Poe, "Chinagate: The Third-Way Scandal" (June 3, 1999)

12 posted on 10/16/2016 6:43:27 AM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!!)
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Norman Hsu, the ghost of US elections past

By George Koo
August 13, 2015

The resurfacing of Norman Hsu [pronounced "shoe"] reminds us that he was a well-known bundler for Hillary Clinton just two election cycles ago. Today he is ensconced in prison making $40 per month as a high school tutor for his fellow prisoners.

By giving his first interview since he was convicted and sent to prison (WSJ, 8/12/15), we are reminded that he once lived the American dream. He took money for the gullible promising handsome returns. He then gave some to the politicians. The photo-ops with politicians gave him credibility, which enabled him to take more money from more gullible people.

Instead of merely taking money from the later investors to pay off the early ones, his cutting politicians in on the take gave his Ponzi scheme an extra twist. OK, according to the Journal article, he didn’t siphon from funds he raised so much as he badgered his investors into making political contributions directly to the candidate. After all, he was making so much money for the suckers that they should be happy to donate just to stay on the good side of Hsu. ...”

http://atimes.com/2015/08/norman-hsu-the-ghost-of-us-elections-past/

13 posted on 10/16/2016 6:45:19 AM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!!)
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Norman Hsu (mugshot)
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New Clinton Scandal Mirrors 'Chinagate,' Say Analysts

By Fred Lucas | July 7, 2008 | 8:32 PM EDT


(CNSNews.com) - Clinton fundraising flashbacks erupted last week as critics of Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) demanded answers about some of her questionable campaign fundraising, aspects of which mirrored the "China-gate" fundraising scandal that plagued the 1996 Bill Clinton-Al Gore campaign

Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign has returned money directly donated from a one-time fugitive, Norman Hsu, now in the custody of California authorities.

But because she is keeping much of the money he raised for her, along with the history of Clinton fundraising scandals, the issue could linger, analysts say.

"It's not over as long as the press and other candidates keep pointing to it," Larry Sabato, a political science professor at the University of Virginia, told Cybercast News Service.

"It's a legitimate issue, given the Clinton fundraising scandals of the 1990s. There is a pattern here. ... We ought to want to find out if a wealthy person is illegally getting others to make donations, then reimbursing them. That is a serious offense," Sabato said.

When the story broke last week, comparisons were instantly made to the 1996 fundraising scandal that involved Chinese nationals donating to President Bill Clinton's reelection campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

Norman Hsu - a criminal fugitive since 1991 after pleading no contest to the charge of grand theft in a California court - has reportedly raised more than $1 million for Sen. Clinton's presidential campaign.

But it was the source of many of the donations - bundling individual donations of $2,300 for the primary and another $2,300 for the general election from unlikely donors - that raised the most suspicion among Clinton critics.

Though Clinton's campaign said the $23,000 that Hsu donated over the years to her presidential and Senate campaign and political action committee will be given to charity, she is not giving away the bundled money that Hsu raised.

Bundling is a term used to describe one person gathering a large number of political contributions under the names of many people. It is often done by heads of companies and other organizations who gather donations from employees to contribute to a candidate.

However, this is sometimes done to circumvent the individual contribution limits.

The most prominent example is the Paw family, who live in a one-story bungalow near the San Francisco International Airport. Having apparently never donated to a political campaign before 2004, the family has given $45,000 to Clinton's campaign organizations since 2005.

Combined, the family reportedly gave more than $200,000 to Democrats running for statewide office in New York. The Paw family is headed by William Paw, a mail carrier who reportedly earns $49,000 a year, and his wife Alice, a homemaker.

Another example was the Lee family in New York that ran a plastics packaging plant in Pennsylvania. They gave more than $200,000 to Democrats in the last three years. Nearly $40,000 of that went to Clinton's presidential or Senate campaigns.

Other Democratic politicians, such as Rep. Michael Honda and Rep. Doris Matsui, both of California, said they would give the money from the Paw family to charity. The Clinton campaign has not made such a pledge.

The Clinton campaign could not be reached for comment Friday despite repeated phone calls.

Hsu's attorney, E. Lawrence Barcella Jr., told reporters that his client did not reimburse anyone for their donations. It is a federal crime to contribute to a politician under someone else's name. It is likewise illegal for a politician to knowingly accept a contribution under someone else's name.

Still, the case already has unanswered questions, as the 1996 fundraising scandal still has unanswered questions, said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, a conservative government watchdog group.

"There is new money, there are straw donors," Fitton told Cybercast News Service, pointing to similarities.

The 1996 Clinton fundraising scandal, often called "Chinagate" involved numerous anecdotes but never produced a smoking gun. Reported events included the following:

- Clinton friend Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie pleaded guilty to charges of violating campaign finance rules in exchange for having pending indictments dropped against him in Washington and Arkansas.

- According to news reports in 1997, Democratic donor Johnny Chung received a $150,000 transfer from the Bank of China three days before he handed then-First Lady Hillary Clinton's chief of staff a $50,000 check.

- Then-Vice President Al Gore received political donations from Buddhist nuns who had taken a vow of poverty.

- President Clinton admitted in 1997 that he invited major campaign donors to spend the night in the White House. The Clintons hosted 404 overnight guests.

- During the investigation by the Department of Justice, about 120 people connected to "Chinagate" either fled the country or pleaded the Fifth Amendment to prevent testifying.

The Republican National Committee posted a fact sheet last Thursday entitled "Re-living History," which looks at parallels between "Chinagate" and the Hsu case.

But "Chinagate" was not the only Clinton fundraising scandal.

After fugitive Marc Rich's ex-wife and a Rich friend donated a combined $1.45 million to the Clinton Presidential Library, he was granted a presidential pardon just before Clinton left office in January 2001. Rich fled the United States after he was convicted of tax evasion.

Also, Hillary Clinton's 2000 Senate campaign was involved in an illegal in-kind contribution from Hollywood mogul Peter Paul. That incident resulted in a $35,000 fine by the Federal Elections Committee and the indictment and later acquittal of her finance director, David Rosen.

Hsu pleaded no contest in 1991 in a California court to a charge that he cheated investors out of $1 million to purportedly operate a business that didn't exist.

However, Hsu failed to show up for a sentencing hearing and went on to live a rather public life in New York as an apparel executive, donating to politicians and serving on the board of the New School. During that 15-year period, California authorities considered him a fugitive. He turned himself in on Friday.

Hsu's attorney told The Los Angeles Times that Hsu did not remember pleading guilty or facing jail time.

The issue could be a factor in the presidential race, said Larry Sabato, as some of Clinton's Democratic rivals have already talked about how it's time for a new, non-Clinton political chapter.

"My guess is that the Democrats will criticize her more than the Republicans," Sabato said. "It's the other Democrats who need to de-throne her by reminding Democrats that she will be just as controversial as the nominee or as president as she was in the 1990s. This is a good issue that connects the present with the past."

However, Gary Rose, a political science professor at Sacred Heart University doubts her Democratic opponents will pounce. He's not sure it would be effective if they did.

"Her support is so deep and so wide in the party," Rose told Cybercast News Service. "It's something that could come up in the general election with the Republican candidate and the Republican machine. But I don't think the Democrats are going to touch this one."

Fitton believes it will have some political impact even though the Clintons have been unscathed, to some degree, by scandal in the past.

"There is a group of people who believe Hillary Clinton is corrupt and won't vote for her," Fitton said. "Then there is a group who thinks she's a political hero and can do no wrong. A situation like this will give pause to those in the middle, which can make or break a presidential campaign."

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/new-clinton-scandal-mirrors-chinagate-say-analysts

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https://web.archive.org/web/20161001142213/http://cnsnews.com/news/article/new-clinton-scandal-mirrors-chinagate-say-analysts


15 posted on 10/16/2016 6:47:00 AM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!!)
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18 posted on 10/16/2016 8:00:05 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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Bookmarking the clintoon scandals & pattern of criminality.


19 posted on 10/16/2016 11:06:15 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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