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MacDailyNews presents live coverage of Apple’s September 7th special event (iPhone 7 intro)
MacDailyNews ^ | September 7, 2016

Posted on 09/07/2016 12:36:08 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: SamAdams76

“Who wants 100 year old technology?”

With all due respect, I’ve heard that stupid line far too many times today to take it seriously.

The answer is YOU DO as long as Apple puts it in front of you.

That QWERTY keyboard you use is over 100 years old. Using a PHONE is well over 120 years old.

HEADPHONES are still run on electromagnets... also over a century old.

Battery tech runs virtually unchanged from the 19th century.

Sound recording and transmission (radio) is also about as old as the airplane.

AC and DC to charge your phones also is as well.


21 posted on 09/07/2016 1:50:10 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

I want to move on to newer technology. Battery technology is so dated. I want a battery that will power my device for months without needing a recharge. I am not impressed by old technology. Except for the trusty bottle opener. The same bottle opener that cracked open a beer in pre-Prohibition 1916 opens my beer just as effectively in 2016.


22 posted on 09/07/2016 1:54:31 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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To: Swordmaker

it seems Bluetooth makes a hackable avenue for the uninvited.


23 posted on 09/07/2016 1:59:29 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: VanDeKoik
You cannot reproduce wired sound over wireless.

Pray tell, what is radio?

24 posted on 09/07/2016 2:03:29 PM PDT by IncPen (Hey Media: Bias = Layoffs)
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To: VanDeKoik

consider you go from buying a $10 overprice earbud set to a 150 overprice Bluetooth set with lower sound quality.

What is the point of a battery life if it is a net loss keeping the Bluetooth transmitter going.

my takeaway today, smartphones are now a commodity and the ONLY thing apple is offering is “stay on the plantation” (suckers)


25 posted on 09/07/2016 2:04:14 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Swordmaker

I’m usually a silent observer, but I frequently, as in for hours on end, have the phone plugged into the charger, and aux port plugged into the car radio with navigation and a book reader running. I can’t run the navigator and book reader at the same time without discharging the battery in a matter of hours.

It would be a frequent problem for me, at least.


26 posted on 09/07/2016 2:10:24 PM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: VanDeKoik
It’s hilarious listening to Appleheads twist in vain to tell us how earphones are just so antiquated and problematic that these devices really need to not have headphone jacks, because (something-something) reasons.

Like moths drawn to a flame and getting burned, the anti-Apple bigots flock to denigrate a roll-out of technical improvements that push technology forward to the future.

I suppose you also complained about the demise of old RS-232 and parallel sockets, unless you cobbled them to your dumb phones. Give it a rest.

27 posted on 09/07/2016 2:11:32 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: IncPen

Quality sound is what I meant to say.

Wired audio > Wireless.


28 posted on 09/07/2016 2:12:29 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: SamAdams76

Get the iMplant in a few years and you won’t have to worry about your ears clogging up either!


29 posted on 09/07/2016 2:12:30 PM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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To: IncPen
Pray tell, what is radio?

The point is lost on the other fellow. Probably complaining you can't play vinyl records on smart phones. As you say, you can reproduce high quality sound over wireless. Plus the fact that the source of the sound recording is already digital before sent over wireless is lost on him.

30 posted on 09/07/2016 2:15:36 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: bigbob

(s)does it come with iKoolaide?(/s)


31 posted on 09/07/2016 2:15:55 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: VanDeKoik

(s)but wireless is more expensive so it MUST be better!(/s)

seriously, smartphones are a commodity.


32 posted on 09/07/2016 2:17:17 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: roadcat

“Like moths drawn to a flame and getting burned, the anti-Apple bigots “

“Bigot”? LOL Ok, Apple SJW. Whatever you say. I guess I should have given you a trigger warning that you might hear something that goes against your dogma so you get your safe space ready

“denigrate a roll-out of technical improvements that push technology forward to the future.”

LOL! Taking out the audio jack is not “technical improvements that push technology forward to the future” anymore than taking out the screen is. Apple just did it....and you dutifully praise it.

Exactly what technology is being pushed into the future? The technology of inconvenience?

“I suppose you also complained about the demise of old RS-232 and parallel sockets, unless you cobbled them to your dumb phones”

1/10. Not even remotely the same. Quite being obtuse.


33 posted on 09/07/2016 2:19:43 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: longtermmemmory

And the funny thing is that Apple fans on other tech blogs were saying that Apple would never do this because it was so goofy, when the first rumors of it came out!

Now that they have all of a sudden headphones are called “100 year old tech”. LOL!

Did they forget how much Apple paid for a headphone company just a couple of years ago?


34 posted on 09/07/2016 2:22:16 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Swordmaker

I do it at my desk. Phone, USB cord, and headphones. No need for Yet-Another-Item-And-Cable at the desk. I thought we were getting away from chains and chains of things?

But with the MacBook having just a single USB-C connector, and the Mac Pro requiring lots and lots of external boxes, I guess Apple’s new approach is cables and adapters for all!

PS: I use the USB port on planes all the time, to charge my phone. It’s great for my monthly flights to Hong Kong, where I can read and listen to music for 14-15 hours straight and arrive with a fully-charged battery. No need to break out lots of little parts - one cable, one headphone - done.


35 posted on 09/07/2016 2:27:45 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan (I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat...)
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To: Swordmaker; VanDeKoik
Really? If you want something to be waterproof, take away the ⅛th inch hole through the casing. Helps immensely.

Swordmaker, meet Lil' Wayne. Here he introduces you to a phone that has an actual 3.5mm audio jack AND is waterproof. Imagine that!

Helps immensely. Such a jack also takes up space inside the casing that could be used for other components, such as more battery, adding to the utility of the device.

Yes, a BIG connector (like a monster CUI unit - much bigger than in your phone) takes all of 0.5cc. How much battery are you going to gain from that? Not to mention there are several phones that are 1+mm THINNER than the iPhone 7s - and still have 3.5mm jacks.

In a day and age of multiple functions, why dedicate a port to a single purpose? Oops, another reason to keep it gone.

If only there was a way to use that port for other things. Like a microphone. Or something like an IR emitter for remote control applications. Or read credit cards. If only the 3.5mm jack was more than a single-purpose port, why the world would be great!

36 posted on 09/07/2016 2:35:09 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan (I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat...)
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To: VanDeKoik
1/10. Not even remotely the same. Quite being obtuse.

Not so different. The point is that most people no longer print to their printers over a dedicated parallel cable. I haven't done so in many, many years. The printing goes over wireless to my printers. I'm glad I no longer have to deal with dedicated parallel cables to my printer. You call it "technology of inconvenience". Wrong. It is certainly convenient to do away with wires for mobility. And it isn't "quite", it's "quit being obtuse", which isn't the case.

37 posted on 09/07/2016 2:39:41 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: SamAdams76; VanDeKoik
Huh, Apple moving us forward on wireless? It's already a wireless world for headphones. Bluetooth and all that... The iPhone/Apple are doing zilch to cause this - it already happened.
38 posted on 09/07/2016 2:40:38 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan (I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat...)
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To: roadcat; VanDeKoik

Yes, wireless is nice. But realize, this move now forces you to, in many instances (such as low battery or situations where you CANNOT use Bluetooth like on flights within Asia) to have MORE connectors and dongles than before.

Instead of just a USB cable (for charging) and a pair of headphones, you now have to have a Lightning-to-USB cable, a hub that has at least two ports (one for charging, one for the phone) and one Lightning port (for the headphone), a headphone, and that USB cable.

So you get to carry extra things and string more spagetti around. All because what you could already do - wireless audio - is now deemed as your ONLY choice, if you want to use your Lightning port for anything other than audio (like, say charging).

More stuff to carry! Hurray!


39 posted on 09/07/2016 2:45:21 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan (I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat...)
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To: Shanghai Dan
Instead of just a USB cable (for charging) and a pair of headphones, you now have to have a Lightning-to-USB cable, a hub that has at least two ports (one for charging, one for the phone) and one Lightning port (for the headphone), a headphone, and that USB cable.

Point taken. However, I wouldn't bother having all that on a plane in the first place. I currently use bluetooth headphones on every flight. The duration of the battery charge is more than enough for flights. I recharge in the hotel room. So all the gear would be stowed away in luggage for flights.

40 posted on 09/07/2016 2:51:42 PM PDT by roadcat
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