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'Largest Ever' Cash Seizure Made on US-Mexico Border
Insight Crime ^ | 30 Aug 2016 | Mimi Yagoub

Posted on 08/31/2016 8:11:02 AM PDT by onona

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To: Pelham; Mr. Douglas

The fifties were great years. We were indeed free in so many ways we are not today. There was not any PC either and people had respect for one another.


41 posted on 08/31/2016 9:39:14 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: butlerweave

“Was Obama sending or receiving ?”

You need to consult Reggie to know for sure. :~)


42 posted on 08/31/2016 9:39:55 AM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa palle)
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To: Pelham

“but I can remember the ‘50s and we were a lot freer in many ways it seems to me.”

I can too-—and they were wonderful years.

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43 posted on 08/31/2016 9:41:25 AM PDT by Mears
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To: wardaddy

It is looking more and more like the war on drugs was really a war on people carrying cash.


44 posted on 08/31/2016 9:44:02 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: onona

That should pay for at least the first mile of the wall. Thanks stupid criminals!- Donald


45 posted on 08/31/2016 9:45:53 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: gaijin

If only there was some way to find out what the article was highlighting.

Idiot.


46 posted on 08/31/2016 10:00:04 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: wardaddy

Some of this abuse could be alleviated by treating the drugs alone as contraband open to seizure. It’s when this gets broadened to seizing people’s money without any evidence that it is sourced from criminal activity that the real trouble begins. And cases of money seizure need to be expedited, it’s criminal to deprive people of their legal property. JMHO.


47 posted on 08/31/2016 10:01:53 AM PDT by Pelham (Best.Election.Ever)
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To: Mears

I think Trump remembers those times as well and is a large part of what he’d like America to be again. So I hope.


48 posted on 08/31/2016 10:03:35 AM PDT by Pelham (Best.Election.Ever)
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To: forgotten man

“I wonder how the Border Patrol knew about those two cars.”

I’d bet they didn’t have their “decoy” routine perfected and were driving a little too tight or always at the same separation, always passing somebody in tandem, etc. From that point it’s the usual routine of inventing a pretext to pull one of them over, bring out the dog for no reason whatsoever, because that’s not really a search (wink), the cued alert, and there’s your “probable cause”.

I’d also bet, but not as much, that they left a little daylight for an excellent defense attorney to exploit: Was that really a dog that was trained to alert on money instead of drugs? Don’t get me wrong, they probably have these guys dead to rights, but it only takes one technicality.


49 posted on 08/31/2016 10:10:37 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: onona

FWIW, the original article doesn’t get the money split quite right. They say it was $33,880 in one car and the rest in the other. The official Border Patrol article says it was eight bundles of $33,880 in the first car.

That makes no legal difference to anybody, but it does mean that the first car was not set up for a maximum loss of only 1.1% as “a cost of doing business”. And it once again shows that journalists botch the simplest things all the time.


50 posted on 08/31/2016 10:16:23 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Mr. Douglas

Suppose you make 500 twenty-dollar deposits over a 10 year period?

Probably still ‘Structuring’.


51 posted on 08/31/2016 10:32:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Every word the "News Media" prints these days are a lie, including "and" and "the".)
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To: wardaddy

But it’s Okay if you put small foreign bills on a plane and fly it to Iran.


52 posted on 08/31/2016 10:42:20 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: Lazamataz

Yeah. Structuring is all about intent. And if a company has cash receipts each day of 8-9 thousand a day, you can look forward to a visit from your rich uncle. It’s like how the USSR was described to me when I was in Grade school in the mid-60’s. Look how far we’ve come.


53 posted on 08/31/2016 10:46:02 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Mr. Douglas

In 2005, I wrote “First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.”

I was amazingly prescient.

My mom used to remark, whenever you made a choice, “Hey, it’s a free country.” She would never say that now.


54 posted on 08/31/2016 10:48:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Every word the "News Media" prints these days are a lie, including "and" and "the".)
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To: onona
This is peanuts compared to $400 million cash in ransom paid to Iran.
55 posted on 08/31/2016 10:48:57 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (,)
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To: Mr. Douglas
Look for this little bit of fun, eventually:

In the former Soviet Union, selling things at a profit was a crime. It was called "Profiteering". Capitalism was a big no-no.

We will eventually have this law.

I saw a man arrested on Кра́сная пло́щадь (Red Square) for Profiteering. It was briefly after the fall of the USSR, the laws had not yet been changed.

56 posted on 08/31/2016 10:51:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Every word the "News Media" prints these days are a lie, including "and" and "the".)
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To: Lazamataz

They’re waiting for us old guys that remember to just die off.


57 posted on 08/31/2016 10:56:20 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Pelham

It all started really with RICO expansions

Preemptive asset seizures at the time of arrest where the assets were either seized or treated as a legal issue separately usually after conviction for initial crime

Now you can lose your cash or even car with no charges whatsoever

And it’s not just drug war

Locally the most common asset seizures are vehicles over DUI disputes


58 posted on 08/31/2016 12:22:39 PM PDT by wardaddy (free republic is an aging demographic)
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To: Mr. Douglas

I agree there is much more to the story than we know and will ever know.

....After pursuing one of the cars, officials conducted a vehicle stop and found $33,880
concealed in the center console. They later located the second car, which had been
abandoned nearby, where they discovered $3,018,000 stashed in the trunk.

The source of the cash was not specified, and the two suspects — one a US citizen
and the other Mexican national — will face federal charges for currency smuggling......

Indeed, bulk cash smuggling is still the “most widely-reported method” used by transnational
criminal groups for moving ill-gotten funds, according to the 2015 National Drug Threat
Assessment (pdf) produced by the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA). The report
states that in 2014, US authorities reported making more than 4,000 bulk cash seizures
amounting to more than $382.2 million. The majority of the cash was seized in the states
of California, New York, and Florida.

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59 posted on 08/31/2016 2:23:29 PM PDT by deport
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To: Mr. Douglas

The silver in that dollar is worth more than that.


60 posted on 08/31/2016 2:44:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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