[Scrambler Bob]

VW caved too easily, due to WWII guilt.

Should have fought it in court about 15 years.

Cars would be worn out by then.

Then what difference would it make.

[Wally_Kalbacken]

I was reading an auto industry trade publication last week that indicated VW was seeking to certify its 2 liter TDI for 2017 models and expected, if approved, to sell models in North America for 2017, 2018 and 2019 before dropping diesels because of more stringent emissions requirements that are implemented during 2019. I was puzzled by this - right now the crisis that VW faces is in dealing with the repurchase of ~480k diesel vehicles sold from 2009-2015. How could they be thinking about reintroducing the diesels, and then only for a 2.5 year run? WTF? The grousing has just begun on that, and I suspect that VW, which has arranged for customers to pickup their checks at the dealership when they return their cars, will find that the customers become former customers and take the check to a brand X dealer to buy their next car.