Maybe customers object to having a political agenda shoved down their throats when all they wanted was a few hours of escapist entertainment.
A fellow going by Jolly Jack pondered this exact question and this is how he envisioned it going down: http://jollyjack.deviantart.com/art/Cinematic-Universes-600853193
If they are successful in shutting down Rotten Tomatoes will they go after Metacritic?
never read the comic, saw some of the trailers.
Maybe the general public is tired of looking for heroes or anti-heroes in the gutter.
Civil War was a great example -- there was no real "right" or "wrong" on either side, and it was thoughtfully presented that way. Neither Cap nor Iron Man was the "bad guy".
BvS wasn’t any worse than marvels usual crap. Maybe I’m getting to old but Civil War was absolutely awful even for a kids movie.
Look up the Marvel Zombie phenomenon of the 1990s. There is a brand loyalty among some fanboys that drives them to consume all of the company's product.
The thing that helps the Marvel movie franchise—at least the part owned by Disney—is that the writers of all the movies work closely together so all the movies have plot connections. And they’re a lot more fun to watch than the Warner Brothers-produced DC Comics movies.
Well if you need an example of how bad the DC movies are, I spent my youth as a devoted DC comic fan, and had no use for Marvel.
For me it was Superman, Supergirl, Superboy, Flash, Batman, etc.
And now I am a devoted fan of the Marvel films and don’t bother to see the DC films.
That’s how good / bad they are.
When they hired James Gunn to do do Guardians of the Galaxy movie the first thing he did was throw the script in the garbage and write it himself.
Sometimes I wonder if Americans have had it TOO easy for too long.
Maybe it is because of fake Green Lantern movie trailers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hTiRnqnvDs
Haven’t seen “Suicide Squad.” Unfortunately, I watched “Batman v. Superman.” Gal Gadot was the only redeeming feature in that movie. Ben Affleck was terrible.
I’ve said this for years: the appeal of the early Marvel comics-—and why they buried DC in the 1960s and became “hip”-—was twofold. First, their characters had real, human problems. Spider-Man was an insecure teenager. The Fantastic Four had a hothead (literally) and a street thug who didn’t get along. Second, the teams-—Avengers, FF, X-Men all had interesting powers, but (except for the Avengers) largely incomplete powers and HAD to work together to achieve anything. Contrast that with the “full deck” Justice League-—Superman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter? With those three alone all but a nebula-level enemy was going to lose.
My take on all these early teams was that they represented AMERICA, namely we are all individuals but achieve great things when we combine our individual talents and powers. But we never lose our unique identity the way the Marxist states do.
Then Marvel went one step further and pitted these groups against each other (or individuals, like Spidey vs. anyone) via the “Puppet Master” or major misunderstandings. Still, you never doubted their goodness, and never lost their individuality.
DC on the other hand for the longest time remained in the “pure” 1950s super hero mode where Superman was almost unbeatable, and the JLA, even without him, was far more powerful than any Marvel group except the Avengers. Thus there was really no chance for them to lose. The villains had to get “too big.” Well, that doesn’t work because a rule of thumb in movies is that the villains have to have SOME level of attraction. Think of the only three DC movies that really worked, the Nolan “Dark Knight” series. “The Joker” was a classic. Evil, of course, but incredibly interesting to watch. Likewise, “Bain,” though completely corrupt, had been corrupted by love and was in his own way trying to engage in a socialist experiment-—which is why we rooted for him to lose.
Bottom line: the villains are too big, the teams too strong, and the only way they lose is to bring in some galactic force that then is so powerful it defies belief that they lose (Galactus).
They turned into a propaganda source instead of an entertainment source. I don’t contribute time or money to LGBT communists who decry our Constitution.
Another reason now I’ve switched to KDramas as my chief form of entertainment.
There’s a lot wrong with the DC movies.
1. They went with a completely wrong vision of Superman in “Man of Steel” and “Batman v Superman.” To a lesser extent, they did the same in “Superman Returns.” Too dark. Superman is by nature an optimistic, sunny character. Not to the point of absurdity, but beyond his powers is the fact that he’s a good person at heart. That was lost in all the recent movie misadventures.
2. They’re trying to add complexity and end up making things complicated. In “Man of Steel,” they added this layer to the story of the DNA of millions of Kryptonians are within Superman’s body. Completely unnecessary. The Superman mythology is elegant in it’s simplicity - the Last Son of Krypton makes Earth his adopted home, and becomes it’s greatest hero. You can only mess that up if you try very hard.
3. We’ve already seen Lex Luthor and General Zod done before and done better. Give audiences something new.
4. Both new Superman films are overlong, terribly paced, ponderous, and poorly constructed. They’re just not made very well, on the merits.
5. Suicide Squad is a great concept, but it’s way too early in the film franchise to do that kind of story. The characters have to be established before you join them together like that.
6. And that doevetails with the final point: they’re just rushing things. They should have followed Marvel’s model and paced out their film schedule. Instead we get fairly poor depictions of Superman and Wonder Woman, and they’re rushing to do Justice League when in fact the team up movie should have been fight or sixth, after doing the individual heroes well.
It really boils down to two things:
not being first and developing a corporate strategy based on envy
And trying to build a shared universe from an empire that’s always been strongly siloed
By not being first they put themselves in a position to try to do what the other guys are doing without copying them. They wanted the shared universe because it was making lots of money, but clearly not because they thought it was a creative direction. And they so far haven’t really focused on making a good movie first, and then bringing it into the universe later. And as the article points out that lack of individual oversight will keep them in the wrong mode.
But then there’s the core problem that the DC universe was never truly shared. All the books basically live in their own silo, and sure the characters interact, but that interaction never impacted the other books. While they had a long running Superman/ Batman team up book that book was never allowed to effect the other books of Batman and Superman. Much like how the Justice League never truly effected the books of the individual members. Marvel’s crossovers were always canon, if Iron Man got a new suit in Avengers he had a new suit in Iron Man, if Captain America got dragged into a battle in Spiderman the next issue of Cap would acknowledge that fight happened. By trying to make a shared cinematic universe they’re fighting against one of the most basic design concepts in the DC universe. Unlike Marvel who made a shared cinematic universe because that’s a basic design concept in Marvel.