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The Self-Driving Dilemma: Should Your Car Kill You To Save Others?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a21492/the-self-driving-dilemma/ ^ | William Herkewitz

Posted on 06/26/2016 10:33:08 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Whether the choice was between their own car fatally crashing itself to save two, three, or ten pedestrians, "what we found was that the large majority of people strongly feel that the car should sacrifice its passenger for the greater good," says Bonifan. "Even when people imagined themselves in the car, they still say that the car should sacrifice them for the greater good. And even when people imagine being in a car with a family member or even with their own child, they still said the car should kill them for the greater good."

There is a big "but" coming. When given the option of hypothetically buying a self-driving car that's utilitarian (it saves the greatest number of people) or one that's selfish (programmed to save its passenger at all costs) people are quick to buy the selfish option. When it comes to utilitarian cars, "they tell us that it's great if other people get these cars, but I prefer not to have one myself," says Bonifan.

Economists call this feeling a social dilemma. It's a bit like how most people view paying taxes. Yeah, everyone should do it. But nobody is too keen on doing it themselves.

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1 posted on 06/26/2016 10:33:08 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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Curious how you might approach these ethical self-driving car scenarios? The scientists published an interactive website today for you to explore them.

http://moralmachine.mit.edu


2 posted on 06/26/2016 10:38:51 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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The car should be programmed to allow the injury or death of as few people as possible. Such as hit a tree instead of running over a crosswalk full of kids.


3 posted on 06/26/2016 10:40:28 PM PDT by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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That could be a sidewalk full of Baltimore-style rioting thugs about to yank you out of your car...and now we want cars that will opt to drive into a tree at that moment? No thanks, I will continue to assess my own situations.
4 posted on 06/26/2016 10:45:23 PM PDT by Blue Jays
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What if those “kids” are holding chains, bats, bricks, and guns?


5 posted on 06/26/2016 10:47:03 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Sharia, No Islam. No Problem. Just say No to Islam. Period.)
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To: Blue Jays

It may come to a point were people will not be allowed to drive. A robot car would never speed or drunk drive, itwould obey all traffic laws and would not be distracted by a phone, radio or screaming kid in the backseat, etc. So there would probably be a lot less accidents or deadly crashes to start with.


6 posted on 06/26/2016 10:47:53 PM PDT by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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I’m missing something. I thought self driving cars were supposed to be able to stop, react more quickly than humans can, and avoid accidents and collisions. I find it hard to believe that the self driving car would find itself in such a dilemma.

But if they do have this dilemma, then these cars still have glitches.


7 posted on 06/26/2016 10:50:36 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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1) better you than me.

2) what does it do when BLM or Mexicans block the street in front of you in a protest and you need to nose through...or even accelerate?

It will stop politely and you will get the Reginald Denny LA riot treatment.


8 posted on 06/26/2016 10:51:18 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that the state deportmentthat up....)
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I think self-driving cars, trucks, and ships are DOA once someone uses one to deliver explosives. Someone might not get their 72 virgins, but putting a hundred pounds of explosives into a car, strapping in a warm body, and setting destination, seems to easy for a budding Islamic terrorist to pass up. Maybe, they’d be the warm body. However it is done, I think the threat of self-driving cars delivering Islamic terrorist explosives is too much to allow them on the road or on the ocean.


9 posted on 06/26/2016 10:52:01 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Sharia, No Islam. No Problem. Just say No to Islam. Period.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Currently one of the biggest problems for self driving cars is trying to compensate for what unpredictable and irrational human drivers do around it. They don’t follow the rules.


10 posted on 06/26/2016 10:52:16 PM PDT by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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...and a robot car won’t take you to places where the government doesn’t want you to go, won’t work at all if the government doesn’t want you to travel, and will keep a detailed log of everywhere you go, when you went there, and how long you stayed.

big brother is here.


11 posted on 06/26/2016 10:53:06 PM PDT by TangibleDisgust ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire)
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The police shut down the roads now when they don’t want you to go somewhere. You currently need the governments permission to even drive.


12 posted on 06/26/2016 10:55:04 PM PDT by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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...and a robot car won’t take you to places where the government doesn’t want you to go, won’t work at all if the government doesn’t want you to travel, and will keep a detailed log of everywhere you go, when you went there, and how long you stayed.

It will also lock you in, or out.

13 posted on 06/26/2016 10:58:13 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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"...A robot car would never speed or drunk drive, itwould obey all traffic laws and would not be distracted by a phone, radio or screaming kid in the backseat, etc..."


My laptop computer occasionally crashes for no identifiable reason.
I also prefer that it not be at the helm of my vehicle at the time.


14 posted on 06/26/2016 10:58:34 PM PDT by Blue Jays
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To: Hojczyk

What about pedestrians who deliberately run in front of oncoming self driving cars? Why should the occupants of the car be the ones do die in that scenario? Why shouldn’t the car kill the pedestrian instead?


15 posted on 06/26/2016 11:11:18 PM PDT by grundle
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So that’s what happened to Michael Hastings. He was sacrificed to that others could lie ...I mean live...my bad...


16 posted on 06/26/2016 11:16:39 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: TangibleDisgust

I was thinking the government would be controlling the political demographics via vehicular “accidents”.


17 posted on 06/26/2016 11:18:55 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Blue Jays

Planes fly and can even land on autopilot. Rockets land on barges with automation. Elevators run on automation and don’t dash their passengers to death except for an occasional malfunction. Commuter trains run on automation. Automated cars are coming.


18 posted on 06/26/2016 11:23:23 PM PDT by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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Will there be a day where the state will require the control over how it’s programmed? How many ways might that power be abused?


19 posted on 06/26/2016 11:33:26 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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Which is why i wont have a self driving car. My car doesnt decide if i live or die. Or my chances, or my instincts, or doing something beyond its programming.


20 posted on 06/26/2016 11:43:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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