That said, when she asked the question about highly evolved peaceful loving aliens I immediately thought from her agnostic view - why would evolution produce such aliens? Wouldnt evolution be far more likely to produce efficient killers and breeders? We are told by biologists that sharks have generally been in stasis for several million years because they are efficient killing machines. Why should we expect mindless evolution to produce advanced conscious and conscience intelligence? If aliens did exist, shouldnt we expect heartless killers from an agnostic point of view?
Sit down and watch Starman with her. With Jeff Bridges and Karen Allen.
All of creation just for us? I don’t buy it.
The Earth is 4b years old and the universe is 13.3b years old. With as much as a 9b year head start and even giving a teeny-tiny percent likelihood that there is intelligent life on some planet elsewhere, it seems to me an absolute certainty that there is intelligent life elsewhere.
Given enough time, humankind will unlock the secrets of what makes this world a reality. There are a lot of little things that need to be understood to see the bigger picture.
How incredibly arrogant.
Since there are hundreds of billions of galaxies (our Milky Way being just one)in the universe, there is an excellent chance that intelligent aliens exist somewhere in that incomprehensible vastness. However given the laws of physics it is impossible for any alien biological or mechanical entity to physically visit. However for over one hundred years, earth has been transmitting in analog and digital form over the last forty years meaningful radio waves. Theoretically an alien listening post has heard us. Those aliens may have in turn already linked with even more distant aliens. In fact there may be an existing chain of alien civilizations separated by distances that no biological or mechanical entity can transverse but communicate with each other via light speed digital transmissions. Perhaps sometime in the next fifty years earth computers will receive a truly wonderous transmission from far away.
There really is no reasonable argument that there is no other intelligent life in the universe besides a purely religious one.
If you hold an article of faith that God made one and only one creation like us, then fair enough.
But if you think the human race and all the life on earth evolved because of our conditions here, then it has done it hundreds of thousands, or even millions of times. And we will never meet them, not even once.
The universe is simply too big. Like one grain of sand on a beach, looking for a few specific grains of sand somewhere else on earth. That’s way too small an example, but its the best I can do.
IF Ets exist,
and IF they have travelled here,
THEN, 100% ABSOLUTELY, every possible means of covering it up is, and will forever be used, by those in power. PERIOD. Because they would destroy the limited planetary mindset of the human race towards their leaders.
So, therefore, 1) if ETs want the limelight, they’re going to have to show themselves BY themselves, because they AIN’T getting any help, and 2) Just because nothing is admitted and there’s an ocean of lies, don’t mean squat.
With current technology, we could populate the galaxy in a few centuries. Slower-than-light ships establishing colonies on any habitable worlds they find, with colonies then sending out more ships as they reached the required level of technology, and so on.
If there are other intelligent species out there, they could do the same.
So far we haven't seen any of them.
It’s so very lonely.
What a huge waste of space it would be if it were so
The peaceful loving aliens never formed a government. So no need to invade or explore very far. The aliens with governments however eventually kill themselves off. Our clock is running.
I am sure there is intelligent life in the universe, it just doesn’t want to come here anymore.
In any competition, the more aggressive are more likely to win, other things being more or less equal.
Lions prey upon antelope. Yet how does an antelope compete with the lion? It doesn’t, any more than a turnip competes with garden bugs. It competes with other antelope to avoid being eaten by the lion.
The lion also competes with other lion. Every organism within an ecological niche competes only with other organisms in that niche, not those outside it.
Any organism that evolved to intelligence would have to be fairly aggressive, both to obtain the scarce resources needed to develop and power a brain, and to be able to defend itself. Because there is only so many non-technological entities a planet can support before Malthusian situations will arise
I don’t know the answer, but I’ll ask the Lord when I get there.
I’ll post the answer on FR.
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Get that old video, “To Serve Man”, then invite her over for
a viewing party. :o)
Get that old video, “To Serve Man”, then invite her over for
a viewing party. :o)
And of course we are Gods creation...,.
There are an infinite “number” of intelligent species in our infinitely large universe.
If there is life elsewhere in the universe, but they are too far away from us in space or in time to communicate with us or they never develop modern means of telecommunication, then we’re alone.