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Kevin James Loibl Shot & Killed Christina Grimmie Because She Was A Christian
Santa Monica Observer ^ | June 11, 2016 | Kristin Peach

Posted on 06/11/2016 7:18:54 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

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To: Moonman62

t is difficult to find motive in the insane ravings of a madman like Kevin James Loibl. But it has become increasingly apparent to police from an examination of Loibl’s cell phone and computer records, that singer Christina Grimmie was murdered because of her outspoken Christian faith.

Loibl traveled from St. Petersburg to Orlando specifically to kill the contestant from NBC’s ‘The Voice,’ said Police, adding that Grimmie and Loibl did not know each other.

Orlando police did say that Loibl carried 2 loaded guns and a hunting knife into the Plaza Live theater, and intended to follow the singer’s murder by perpetrating a mass casualty event. The Voice singers brother prevented others from dying by wrestling the shooter down, who then shot himself dead.

Orlando police said Loibl, 27, came to the concert venue from St. Petersburg. Her brother tackled Loibl, who then proceeded to shoot and kill himself. The crime is being investigated as a hate crime after an examination of recent posts and e mails by Loibl. His insane rantings were removed from the internet shortly after the crime.

The singer, 22, died Saturday at an Orlando hospital after the gunman shot her at the Plaza Live Theater while she was signing autographs. The shooting occurred in front of fans and family. She had been the opening act for the band Before You Exit.


21 posted on 06/11/2016 7:54:07 PM PDT by Mean Daddy
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To: Mean Daddy

She wrote: In the western world, especially American civilization, when asking for a person’s religious standing, the most common response you will encounter is simply “I’m a Christian.” Most people subtly just think to themselves “Oh, okay good. I was worried for second.” But as I have traveled to Israel recently, fervently prayed and studied Scripture, and examined the culture around me, I have found that when someone says “I’m a Christian,” I should be more worried for their soul than if they said “I’m an atheist.”

Before you stone me to death with your subconscious judgment, let me explain. If you will, come explore with me what it should look like when a person claims Christianity. Come with me, and let’s take a look at the most overused word in the English language. What is this “Christian” stuff all about anyway? “

Christina Grimmie posted Christian songs online such as Me Singing - “In Christ Alone” - Christina Grimmie Cover - HAPPY EASTER!! - YouTube


22 posted on 06/11/2016 7:54:31 PM PDT by Mean Daddy
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This was apparently too much for the twisted gunman, who left insane rantings about her online, according to our sources. Like Mark David Chapman, who became obsessed with John Lennon, Loibl grew obsessed with the singer and her Christian beliefs.

Kevin James Loibl’s Facebook page has been taken down, as is standard procedure following heinous crimes such as this one. Authorities fear they might inspire copycat crimes.

Clicking should take you to Grimmie’s Christian video, “In Christ Alone.”
Attorneys say that to prove a murder case by circumstantial evidence, prosecutors must present 3 elements: Motive, Opportunity and Intent. What Loibl left on his computer and in his cell phone shows motivation: His hatred of Christians in general and of one young female Christian singer in particular. Loibl had the opportunity because he was present at the Plaza, and his intent could be demonstrated again by his communications, and by buying two guns.

Of course, had Loibl lived, prosecutors would not have needed to put on a circumstantial evidence type case, because there were many witnesses. They would have testified.

It can be said for sure that Loibl had a diseased, twisted mind. And that Christina Grimmie joins a long line of martyrs for her faith.

See also http://www.smobserved.com/story/2016/06/11/news/christina-grimmie-shot-dead-by-gunman-while-signing-autographs-at-concert-the-voice/1423.html

Update, 2:30 pm PST: Man who shot and killed Christina Grimmie @TheRealGrimmie is Kevin James Loibl DOB 03/10/1989 pic.twitter.com/2D7ZIDhXCa - Orlando Police (@OrlandoPolice) June 11, 2016


23 posted on 06/11/2016 7:55:12 PM PDT by Mean Daddy
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To: fella

Police had it removed is my guess.


24 posted on 06/11/2016 8:02:55 PM PDT by Pelham (Barack Obama. When being bad is not enough and only evil will do)
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To: marktwain

Yep. If the brother hadn’t jumped him Loibl probably would have killed plenty more.


25 posted on 06/11/2016 8:04:06 PM PDT by Pelham (Barack Obama. When being bad is not enough and only evil will do)
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To: Mean Daddy
Of course, had Loibl lived, prosecutors would not have needed to put on a circumstantial evidence type case, because there were many witnesses. They would have testified.

I don't understand this - why can't eyewitness testimony be used now?

26 posted on 06/11/2016 8:05:51 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Mean Daddy

It would seem that in our current era your best option is to remain anonymous as much as possible. A bit difficult if your chosen profession is to be an entertainer.


27 posted on 06/11/2016 8:06:23 PM PDT by Pelham (Barack Obama. When being bad is not enough and only evil will do)
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To: Texas Fossil

In what way?


28 posted on 06/11/2016 8:09:03 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Texas Fossil
I had never heard of her. What a sweet girl. I love her improvisation style on the keyboard and the chord changes. "In Christ Alone" it was almost prophetic; I get the feeling she would have laid down her life for Him anyway but I'm so sorry she doesn't get to live it out.

It's really ironic. Muhammed Ali who turned his back on Christ and now this young lady who died for him. Her death will be a testimony. It will be hard on her brother maybe thinking if only he could have taken the guy down sooner. I'm glad the family doesn't have two children to grieve.

It's still very heart wrenching.

29 posted on 06/11/2016 8:12:51 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Texas Fossil

The very portrait of a smug liberal.


30 posted on 06/11/2016 8:14:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Mean Daddy

Many on the left will be glad she’s dead for that post. Fact. Kerry Livgren had a debilitating stroke a day after telling Hannity he was a conservative, and the left laughed and cheered.


31 posted on 06/11/2016 8:19:17 PM PDT by Rastus (#AlwaysTrump #NeverHillary)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes.


32 posted on 06/11/2016 8:20:38 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

If there is any justice in this, it’s that Christina is singing and dancing and praising her Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and she gets do it in utter joy for all eternity.

And...that scum who shot her then cowardly took his own life will BURN in everlasting hell fire in eternal torture with no possible hope of relief forever and ever and ever until the last tick of eternity.


33 posted on 06/11/2016 8:21:01 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("It's not the whole world gone mad. Just the people in it.")
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To: whistleduck

Likely


34 posted on 06/11/2016 8:21:16 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Someone else posted this original song by Christina. Beautiful...”I Bet You Don’t Curse God”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxLlsYv0Fls

:There’s pain, Life hurts
There’s a thousand things
You think you don’t deserve
All hope is lost
When You spend it all
And you just can’t beat the odds
I bet you don’t curse God
I bet you don’t curse God

[Verse 2:]
I bet you don’t curse God
When your child is gone
And he ain’t picking up the phone
And it’s 2am on a Saturday in July

I bet you don’t curse God
At your bottom line
And your credit cards are all declined
And you don’t know where you’re gonna sleep tonight


35 posted on 06/11/2016 8:25:28 PM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: Texas Fossil

A new hero for the Left.


36 posted on 06/11/2016 8:25:59 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: hoagy62

Yes.


37 posted on 06/11/2016 8:26:40 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Rome2000

Just appearance & empty eyes.

I know that is probably not a valid reason for saying that.


38 posted on 06/11/2016 8:31:41 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: dfwgator

I doubt they will be quick to endorse him. Not that they don’t want to, but they won’t want the consequences of endorsement.


39 posted on 06/11/2016 8:36:18 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Damn just awful, I figured he killed her because he was some nut job obsessed fan but if he killed her for being a Christian, it makes the motive even more sickening..she was such a beautiful girl, I do not watch The Voice so obviously was not familiar with her but seeing her on stage doing what she loved to do best, heaven has a new angel


40 posted on 06/11/2016 8:38:04 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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