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United States of Paranoia: They See Gangs of Stalkers
NY Times ^ | June 10, 2016 | MIKE McPHATE

Posted on 06/10/2016 6:21:12 PM PDT by proxy_user

Nobody believed him. His family told him to get help. But Timothy Trespas, an out-of-work recording engineer in his early 40s, was sure he was being stalked, and not by just one person, but dozens of them.

He would see the operatives, he said, disguised as ordinary people, lurking around his Midtown Manhattan neighborhood. Sometimes they bumped into him and whispered nonsense into his ear, he said.

“Now you see how it works,” they would say.

At first, Mr. Trespas wondered if it was all in his head. Then he encountered a large community of like-minded people on the internet who call themselves “targeted individuals,” or T.I.s, who described going through precisely the same thing.

The group was organized around the conviction that its members are victims of a sprawling conspiracy to harass thousands of everyday Americans with mind-control weapons and armies of so-called gang stalkers. The goal, as one gang-stalking website put it, is “to destroy every aspect of a targeted individual’s life.”

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; paranoia; schizophrenia; stalkers
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Interesting article on this type of paranoia and conspiracy theory.

There may be real secret government operations, but I agree with the article that this particular group is delusional.

1 posted on 06/10/2016 6:21:12 PM PDT by proxy_user
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Having worked for the govt for a while I can tell you that they aren’t competent enough to pull something like this off.


2 posted on 06/10/2016 6:27:45 PM PDT by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost, like tears in rain.)
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sounds like a parallel to the tarns-gender psychoses.


3 posted on 06/10/2016 6:32:10 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: proxy_user
It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you. :=)
4 posted on 06/10/2016 6:34:41 PM PDT by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not accomplishments; they're jobs.)
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“Recording Engineer?”
That can be a tough gig. I’ve known a few in my recording career. Guys invest in studios, pay a lot for gear, and can’t make a go of it. The engineer is the first guy let go. I’ve known some very good engineers, who did the job because of their love of music. But it’s a very insecure field. Most of them are IT guys now.


5 posted on 06/10/2016 6:35:44 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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It’s not uncommon, as far as this type of thing goes.

I think it is associated with long term heavy marijuana use.


6 posted on 06/10/2016 6:37:30 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Let's see now ... a form of group psychosis spread via the internet based on carefully selected facts and faulty reasoning therefrom.

Where have I heard something like this before...


7 posted on 06/10/2016 6:40:58 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Seruzawa

It depends on what part of the government we’re talking about.


8 posted on 06/10/2016 6:41:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Psyche meds aye.


9 posted on 06/10/2016 6:43:17 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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I know of someone who posted a pic of an illegal firearm (taken in his garage)on a firearms forum only to soon get a visit from the feds wanting to see said firearm. He had a good back story and was not charged with anything.

You better believe FR is monitored too.


10 posted on 06/10/2016 6:44:34 PM PDT by umgud
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I worked with a guy that was about 50 years old, never married and kinda quiet. We were eating lunch one day and I noticed he had his dog tied to his truck. I asked him if he took his dog everywhere and he said he had to because his neighbors would poison it if he left it at home. He said that he also had to stop every day and buy food because if he left food at home his neighbors would poison it also. I actually thought he was joking but he kept on talking and said they watched him through the walls with some kinda of infared device and would come in his house at night while he slept. I tried to change the subject and he kept talking.
I imagine he was like these people.


11 posted on 06/10/2016 6:45:23 PM PDT by Romans Nine
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“An echo-chamber of paranoia.”

The Slimes is projecting again.


12 posted on 06/10/2016 6:48:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If an illegal-alien quarantine saves just one child's life, it will be worth it.)
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Slimes is so ignorant.

Eg this:

“Mr. Hall, 51, was invited for an interview on “Coast to Coast AM,” a conspiracy-minded radio show based in California that is said to reach millions of listeners.”

Coast to Coast is a huge show and the writer acts as if he’s never heard of it. That crackpot radio show has a faster audience than the NY Times.


13 posted on 06/10/2016 6:51:26 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Sounds like schizos to me


14 posted on 06/10/2016 6:52:35 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's what's for dinner: with Cloward Piven for Dessert)
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and not by just one person, but dozens of them.

Sounds like a nut. With modern technology, they wouldn't need anywhere near that many folks.

15 posted on 06/10/2016 7:05:38 PM PDT by PAR35
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You better believe FR is monitored too.

...by contractors who got the job because they were the lowest bidders...

Lots of sloppy work and false positives in the lists that such folks might keep. And they would essentially get paid for volume too, so the lists would keep getting longer, without any quality checks. You might be #17,290,338 on the "To Do" list by now.

It could take "them" a while to get around to you.

16 posted on 06/10/2016 7:16:25 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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When I had access to usenet, there were a lot of people claiming they were victims of MKUltra. They did sound delusional or just plain crazy the way they expressed themselves and what they claimed.

I had a friend who suffered from schizophrenia, she kind of latched onto me, and showed up at my house one night saying that 50 or so FBI agents had followed her to my house and were outside. I defused it by telling her to show me where they are and I will go out and talk to them. That was the end of that one with me. But she frightened me, and I couldn't get any help or advice, no shelter would take her in, I did not want to go to sleep with my three children and her chain smoking, afraid she would set the house on fire or worse. I called my dad and he came over and gave me enough money to get her a hotel/motel room. I called, found a decent hotel downtown, took her down there and paid. The next day or so she was seen getting on a plane. It took months for mental health to catch up with her (and she had children in care of the state at that point). They finally got her committed over running up her charge cards. It was sad really. She eventually got custody of her youngest daughter but died of cancer before the little girl was grown.

Two people I read about cured themselves. One was killed with his wife eventually in a taxi taking them home from an airport in New Jersey, a university mathematition. The other person was female, years ago, she was institutionalized and somehow managed to cure herself. She ended up as administrator of the institution, somewhere out east.

Who knows? One person shared their story, she asked if I'd heard of Project Blue Beam. Yes, but I didn't know what it was.

The following might or might not be a credible site. No credible outlet is going to write any version other than what the NYT did. The person mentioned I believe was a Quebecois who did investigative research according to wiki, hard to find credible sources. The photo could be real or fake, I saw it before, sure some of you have, too. Maybe some of it is true, break down a person's mind, destroy their religion and form a new world order one. If there is anything to it, there are probably more apps than that. Some of it could be experimental. Or a delusion as a result of mental illness.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/project-blue-beam-conspiracy-theory-suggests-nasa-has-secret-plans-to-create-new-world-order/news-story/25266f2c57e89e139f0fa9daddeb0953

17 posted on 06/10/2016 7:47:27 PM PDT by Aliska
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This begins a four part comment on Obama’s pronouncement that World Leaders are now rattled by Donald Trump. As POTUS, Mr. Trump will save the US from coming under the future rule of a New World Order and One World Government controlled by a powerful international elite to which these World Leaders belong. A One World Government would fulfill a decades-long plan devised by Austrian diplomat and Freemason, Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi (1894-1972) regarded as the founding father of the current European Union although not much is known about him today.

His 1925 book ‘Practical Idealism (Praktischer Idealismus) sets out his plan for a United Europe, backed by the Vatican, under a centralized unelected government envisioned as the prototype for the US and the rest of the world when a New World Order is finalized. It’s simply not possible to buy this book today. It is censored in Germany despite not being present on the official list of books censored by the German government!

The essence of Kalergi’s Plan is outlined by Austrian writer Gerd Honsik: “Kalergi proclaims the abolition of the right of self-determination and, subsequently, the elimination of nations by means of ethnic separatist movements or mass allogeneic (genetically dissimilar) immigration in order to create a multiethnic flock without quality, easily controllable by the ruling class. Kalergi characterized the resulting multiethnic flock as cruel and unfaithful but maintained the elite must still deliberately create them in order to achieve their own superiority: ‘Then the elite will first eliminate democracy – the rule of the people. Next, the elite will eliminate the people via miscegenation, thereby replacing the ruling white race with an easily controllable mestizo race. By abolishing the principle of equality of all before the law, avoiding and punishing any criticism of minorities, and protecting minorities with special laws, the masses will be suppressed.’”

Part II – World Leaders rattled!
Kalergi’s ideas were the basis for the European Union’s policy of high levels of immigration combined with laws protecting these migrants under the guise of humanitarianism aimed at destroying European identity and creating a single race under the rule of the elite, i.e., white genocide! The European Union has been indoctrinating Europeans to tolerate and accept politically correct multiculturalism and infiltration via forced mass migration of hordes of Africans and Asians with the real goal being to completely denature the European people by converting them into a collection of individuals with no ethnic, historical or cultural cohesion. The initial low birth rate justification has now been replaced with Merkel’s ‘All Refugees Welcome’ declaration, thereby speeding up the process.

Western Europe’s current political leaders know full well that Kalergi was the author of the European Union. It was he who suggested Beethoven’s hymn as the EU’s national anthem and he was very active in connection with the design of the EU logo. Europe’s Coudenhove-Kalergi prize was created in his honor to be awarded to Europeans who have excelled in promoting his depraved plan. Better known today as The Charlemagne Prize, the official p.c. description is: “for those able to exercise a political influence and make an outstanding contribution to the process of European integration.” Among those awarded this prize are Angela Merkel, Herman Van Rompuy (former Prime Minister of Belgium and first President of the European Council) and this year’s recipient Pope Francis.

Part III – World Leaders rattled
President John F. Kennedy said in an address on Freemasonry to newspaper publishers on April 27, 1961: “The very word ‘secrecy’ is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers cited to justify it.” (No wonder he was assassinated and I fear there is now a high danger of Mr. Trump being eliminated in the exact same way.)

In his book Kissinger on the Couch (1975), Rear Admiral Chester Ward, Former Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy and CFR member for sixteen years, stated: “The CFR has as a goal submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government. In the entire CFR lexicon there is no term of revulsion carrying a meaning as deep as ‘America First’” That is the very term now frequently being used by Mr. Trump, in conjunction with ‘Make America Great Again.’ Ward also says in this book: “Once the ruling members of the CFR have decided the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of the CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition.”

Part IV
The underlying truth behind the politically correct ‘diversity’ and ‘multicultural’ labels, as well as the ‘racist’ and ‘Islamophobia’ charges, occasionally leaks out. In 1955, G. Brock Chisholm, a known Kalergi disciple and former director of the World Health Organization, said: “In all places, people must practice the limitation of births so as to create a single race in a new world that is dependent on a central authority.” Under the media’s dual pressure of misinformation and the propaganda of humanitarianism, Europeans and the rest of the West are being induced and pressured to deny their origins as some kind of progressive humanitarian act and to believe that holding onto their origins and cultural identity is ‘racism’ except, of course, for the elite who will remain entrenched at the top.

America, formerly the home of the brave and the free has become the home of those who think they are free. None are more enslaved and manipulated than those who think they are free. The threat is whatever the Ministry of Truth and the complicit news media says it is. This is behind the agenda to have all guns banned so that those who would resist will have been totally disarmed. Next is to have the people accept solutions to problems that will instigate the changes the government wanted but which the people would have initially been unwilling to accept. This is intended to likewise lead to worldwide solutions which will firmly establish a One World Order.


18 posted on 06/10/2016 8:02:52 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.")
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Re the link: If it happens, “test the spirits to see if they are of God.” Many instances of this testing are recorded in the Word, when people got a “visitation”. The ancients knew about mental illness and/or evil spirits, and how to test for them.


19 posted on 06/10/2016 8:11:50 PM PDT by Bethaneidh (Likely to annoy someone every time. Get over it.)
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“Person of Interest”. Good show, not real. I have known at least one genuine paranoid who thought the CIA was after him. He drank himself to death.


20 posted on 06/10/2016 8:14:27 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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