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FDA Regulates Cigars, E Cigs--Final Rule Issued
Reuters ^ | May 5, 2016 | Reuters

Posted on 05/05/2016 2:18:48 PM PDT by cgbg

See the link for some coverage.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cigars; ecigregs; ecigs; fda; fdaoutofcontrol; regulation; tobacco
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This is a disaster--the link has some information.

As a cigar smoker what this means is that in a couple of years (or sooner) most cigar stores will close, most Dominican, Honduran, Nicaraguan, Peruvian and American growers, manufacturers and distributors of cigars will be out of business because FDA will have to "approve" all new products and within three years "approve" all products that hit the market since 2007.

Since the FDA already states their view (with the usual phony "science") that all cigars are harmful it will be difficult if not impossible to gain their approval for a specific cigar. The FDA approval process could cost six figures for one cigar brand--and then they could be (and in my view most will be) rejected.

It will soon dawn on growers and distributors that the risk of their business will exceed the potential reward and the vast majority will close their businesses laying off thousands in several countries.

This is a classic case of the nanny state on steroids--out of control and striking out at any politically incorrect group.

1 posted on 05/05/2016 2:18:48 PM PDT by cgbg
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To: cgbg

When cigars are outlawed, only outlaws will have cigars.


2 posted on 05/05/2016 2:22:34 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: cgbg

Liberal - someone who stays awake at night worrying that someone, somewhere, may actually be enjoying life in an ‘unapproved’ manner.


3 posted on 05/05/2016 2:23:29 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: cgbg

Great news. The smoking wars are largely over, this will help put an end to the scourge.


4 posted on 05/05/2016 2:23:43 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

The only scourge I see is government elites trying to tell the rest of us how to live our lives.

It won’t work—there will be a black market just like we have now for Cuban cigars.

All it does is turn previously law abiding citizens into criminals and enemies of the state.


5 posted on 05/05/2016 2:29:04 PM PDT by cgbg (Epistemology is not a spectator sport.)
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To: cgbg

When is the FDA going to get involved with labeling and getting a list of ingredients from the pot stores?

I find it odd that many of the same folks who want to legalize pot are the same folks who rally against smoking (not all but many).

I also find it odd that here where I am, you can’t even build a patio on your tavern anymore where smokers can go, but you can have Hookah lounges where hipsters smoke indoors (but you can’t have a cigar lounge anymore).

This makes no sense to me. This upsets me, but I can’t put my finger on exactly why. Maybe just the hypocrisy.


6 posted on 05/05/2016 2:30:58 PM PDT by Bubba Gump Shrimp (Make America Great Again - Put America First! Colonel Allen West for VP)
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To: cgbg

They can take my cigars. From the hands of my dead body.


7 posted on 05/05/2016 2:31:10 PM PDT by bigcat32
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When cigars are outlawed, only outlaws will have cigars.

Rap stars will start posing with them, injecting verses about their Cuban smokes.

8 posted on 05/05/2016 2:32:24 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (The would-be Empress has no clothes. My eyes!)
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To: Bubba Gump Shrimp

I know what you mean for frustration (I live in CO). But I think the reason why is that the FDA has “federal” jurisdiction. Marijuana is not legal on a federal level, it’s legal on a state level. Another example, let’s say that a company manufactures drugs, but as long as all their ingredients, distribution, etc. is within the state, the FDA doesn’t have jurisdiction (even though this situation is rare).


9 posted on 05/05/2016 2:34:46 PM PDT by zr2hammer
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10 posted on 05/05/2016 2:36:54 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: cgbg

Bill Clinton would never have done this.


11 posted on 05/05/2016 2:38:24 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: catnipman

If you fill cigars with hemp, you’ll be ok.


12 posted on 05/05/2016 2:42:06 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: cgbg

“Nicoderm manufacturer ALZA is a subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson Company
ALZA is a wholly owned subsidiary of J & J.

ALZA manufactures Nicoderm & Nicoderm CQ.

Johnson & Johnson’s buyout of Pfizer Consumer Health (PCH) now gives J & J additional pharmaceutical nicotine profits from Nicotrol, Nicorette, and Commit (see pgs 32,33,56).

Note: GSK distributes Nicoderm, but it is manufactured by a Johnson & Johnson subsidiary......ALZA. As explained by GSK rep here:

http://cleanairquality.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-has-been-alleged-by-mayo-doctor.html

It’s little wonder then that Johnson & Johnson is funding smoking ban efforts thru their private foundation the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (RWJF). To date RWJF has funded groups like the American Lung Association, American Non-Smoker’s Rights, Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids, etc. to the tune of $446+ million to eliminate traditional delivery methods of nicotine, in order to prop up demand of all the pharmaceutical nicotine products that parent organization Johnson & Johnson manufactures or owns........classic rent seeking legislation at its finest.

The only problem is that these smoking bans, which are merely a marketing scam for the pharmaceutical nicotine industry, are eliminating thousands of hospitality establishments and hundreds of thousands of jobs.””

Pfizer is also the maker of Chantix. This is why they went after e cigarettes. It was putting a hurt on the pharma boys bottom line. Patches weren’t working. Chantix wasn’t working and with horrible side effects.

But e- cigarettes are working. They’ve helped thousands of people quit smoking, but Pfizer was losing money.
I hate politicians and special interests.


13 posted on 05/05/2016 2:43:43 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: cgbg

The FDA “Nanny” is selective
Why do they not regulate THC capsules and THC patches?


14 posted on 05/05/2016 2:43:50 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: cgbg

Rush can move to Havana


15 posted on 05/05/2016 2:45:34 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: cgbg

I wonder if Cuban cigars will get an exception from this process and scrutiny. Because they are commie cigars, from Obammy’s comrades.


16 posted on 05/05/2016 2:47:23 PM PDT by gg188 (AMERICA FIRST)
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"When cigars are outlawed, only outlaws will have cigars."

Good news for the Castros. Obama is eliminating the competition and will undoubtedly love to help his new best buddies, probably approve foreign business development aid and expedited import licenses.

17 posted on 05/05/2016 2:48:35 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Drango

So you are ok with other people controlling your property rights?


18 posted on 05/05/2016 2:49:08 PM PDT by gg188 (AMERICA FIRST)
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To: Drango

What “scourge”...lawyers and state public funds garnered the most cash out of the scam suit from the fed on that last debacle. I roll pipe tobacco because I can get a pound for 13.99 at tax class L . Name brand smokes have severe and far more complex carcinogens because of additives and flavorings. What I smoke is basic tobacco ....what the hell do you think got America rolling ? ...the scourge you mention is it....shame you have no idea what a boon tobacco has been and is to the cash pits states need and depend upon. I find any further intervention insult to injury . But I am speaking to a person who knows not of what he/she speaks.


19 posted on 05/05/2016 2:50:27 PM PDT by mythenjoseph (Separation of powers)
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To: cgbg

Maybe I should go to all the vape shops and buy as many vapers as I can afford and sell them in a few months when they will be worth at least twice as much.


20 posted on 05/05/2016 2:51:22 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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