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FORTRAN is still kicking. FORTRAN 15 will be released in 2018 http://j3-fortran.org/
1 posted on 04/18/2016 3:09:17 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: ShadowAce

FORTRAN 15
June 2016 - Working draft available
July 2016 - WG5 straw ballot
February 2017- Committee draft available
March 2017 - WG5 ballot on committee draft
October 2017 - Draft International Standard available
November 2017 - Ballot on Draft International Standard
February 2018 - Final Draft International Standard available
April 2018 - Ballot on Final Draft International Standard
July 2018 - Standard published

https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2015/09/04/doctor-fortran-in-one-door-closes


2 posted on 04/18/2016 3:14:19 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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Wow. I haven’t messed with FORTRAN since ‘79. I hope the accursed punch cards are history...


3 posted on 04/18/2016 3:16:28 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Intel is still committed to FORTRAN.


4 posted on 04/18/2016 3:17:04 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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I programmed in Fortran for close to thirty years. What got me out of the ‘Biz’ wasn’t the programming, it was the ensuing documentation. When I first started a job that involved a one line code change plus testing and documentation took eight hours or so. When I left it was at least six month’s from start to finish plus almost a half a million dollars in overhead.

It was just too much...

Now I’m much happier doing what I’m doing.


5 posted on 04/18/2016 3:17:51 AM PDT by The Working Man
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Boy do I remember those days.

COBOL/CICS and JCL with VSAM structures.

DELETE/DEFINE files before loading them.

Fun stuff and pretty easy.

I even did Assembler for my old banks connections from the branches to the mainframe. Quickest code to read the deposit/withdraw information back and forth to the branches.


6 posted on 04/18/2016 3:20:45 AM PDT by CapnJack
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An acquaintance is working with OpenVMS supporting legacy VMS systems. He tells me the average age of folks in the office in around 55 years.

Time to fire up the old PDP-10.

8 posted on 04/18/2016 3:30:30 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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+1


9 posted on 04/18/2016 3:32:44 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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I remember what was it, about 20 years ago, I threw away a deck of Cobol cards that were a language interpreter for something - think it was a tape management system.

Since then, I’ve consulted, been an employee, but now simply contract as a systems programmer.engineer exclusively for mainframes.

But don’t get me wrong - I agree with you premise, that no one knows Cobol or Fortran or any of those anymore.
And sadly, as far as the Internet goes, Cobol would have kicked the shit out of Java!


10 posted on 04/18/2016 3:41:11 AM PDT by djf ("It's not about being nice, it's about being competent!" - Donald Trump)
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FORTRAN, PL/1 and COBOL were not hard to learn. PL/1 was my favorite.


12 posted on 04/18/2016 3:46:16 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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At 60, I can handle the COBOL/FORTRAN. What I can’t handle is the SOX BS and dealing with the people in India. Retired I shall stay...


13 posted on 04/18/2016 3:59:41 AM PDT by laker_dad
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Interesting article. I'd add that the companies need to involve their own people, not just contractors. They also need to verify the skills. There are too many contractors who claim to have a skill and then read the manual the night before.

Worked on one project to move key applications off a mainframe. The replacement system would have been more flexible but required over a hundred servers to replace 1/3 of one mainframe LPAR. When management saw the cost, the whole project was cancelled. Ironically, the best replacement configuration turned out to be...a mainframe supporting virtual servers.

16 posted on 04/18/2016 4:28:12 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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When were mainframe systems ever “cool”?


21 posted on 04/18/2016 4:43:23 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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A good software engineer can write FORTRAN in any language.


22 posted on 04/18/2016 4:43:36 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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"I've hand-selected you to do something for me that is going to help you shape the future of IT at our company. [bllah blah blah ...] forward."

Or, you can try this:

Wanted, COBOL and FORTRAN programmers, $150/hour plus benefits and advancement opportunities. Experience a plus, other programming experience plus certs in COBOL and FORTRAN considered.


Which one will get hotshots in the door faster? The first generation of programmers sprang from the head of Zeus, fully formed, pretty much. It can happen again.
25 posted on 04/18/2016 4:50:25 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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I learned FORTRAN II (that’s 2 not 11) in college in ‘64. Ran it on an IBM 1620. You had to load the compiler deck of several hundred cards through the card reader. A guy in the class dropped the compiler more than once. He got very proficient at operating the card sorter.


27 posted on 04/18/2016 4:59:32 AM PDT by MisterArtery
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Mainframe operators, themselves, are dying off like dinosaurs because everyone went on this cloud kick and yet the cloud is, IMO, just as vulnerable. Stripping away all the jargon and bullsh— techies love to babble, a mainframe requires sunk costs in a physical system that must be constantly updated and is vulnerable because it exists in one physical location. A cloud requires paying to outsource this to another company and is vulnerable because the business must access their important data through an internet connection that isn’t (and probably never will be) 100% secure from hackers and terrorists.

I guess enough businesses have been stung by the cloud that they are rebuilding their mainframes again which, at least, the business has more physical control and access over their data.

The wisest approach, which I have seen in action, is a redundancy approach where data centers exist in more than one location and the cloud is used as a backup storage location as part of a disaster recovery plan, meaning you have a mainframe that does the primary work, a second physical mainframe in another city that can take over for the primary during maintenance and physical emergencies (hurricanes, for example) and a third backup of data in a cloud system should both mainframes be affected at one time.

This triple redundancy is expensive but it is the wisest approach for any business where their data is their lifeblood.


29 posted on 04/18/2016 5:01:37 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Abort Hillary - again)
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30 posted on 04/18/2016 5:02:03 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The GOPe deserve nothing more than a middle finger)
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This COBOL programmer ready to come out of retirement. Any takers?


31 posted on 04/18/2016 5:03:57 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("When judges act like whores, they can hardly expect to be treated like nuns.")
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Are you saying I could go back to work as a COBOL programmer?

A company I was working for fired all its COBOL and Fortran programmers and hired Satyam. That was exciting.


33 posted on 04/18/2016 5:06:51 AM PDT by Roses0508
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I programmed in IBM S370 Assembler language for 12 years... couldn’t find work after Y2K.

Started my own business.

Would like to get back into programming if this is true.


35 posted on 04/18/2016 5:09:57 AM PDT by Safrguns
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