[Nifster]

Forty years is a very long time to be selling computers and have the loyal customer base that Apple has

[catfish1957]

I have owned a computer since 1986, so I have been in DOS/MS mode for so long, that the conversation to Apple (though not complete) has been slow.

I use both, but sure like the security aspects better with ios, and am sick and damn tired of being bullied into converting to WIN 10. (Which I refuse).

Apple products seem to better made than the rest of the PC's now too.