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The Most Important States On Trump’s Path To 1,237 Delegates
fivethirtyeight.com ^ | 3-22-2016

Posted on 03/24/2016 5:52:51 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

Nate Silver: When I was filling out my projections, I was a little bit surprised that I had Trump coming up short of 1,237 since I thought I was being fairly optimistic for him in individual states. However, once you account for the facts that (1) there are quite a few uncommitted delegates and (2) Trump isn’t likely to do so well in less populous states west of the Mississippi, which is a fair bit of what’s out there — well then, Trump has to do really well everywhere else.

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Chart at link predicts 1,208 delegates for Trump.
1 posted on 03/24/2016 5:52:51 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

I was shocked to learn that a lot of delegates remaining (in particular those in Penn) are uncommitted. That affected my confidence that Trump could get to 1237 also.


2 posted on 03/24/2016 5:56:59 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: Citizen Zed

They ignore 54 delegates in PA (it has 71, not 17) because by some arcane rule they are somehow uncommitted. I have to believe most of them go to Trump.

I think he also shortchanges Trump in NY, and likely CA.

And those are just the three states I looked at. Silver works for the NY Times. They have an agenda.

Interesting commentary on the individual states rules here:

http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2016/03/the-gop-nomination-math-confusing-and-complicated/


3 posted on 03/24/2016 6:00:49 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Citizen Zed

This guy’s math is fuzzy


4 posted on 03/24/2016 6:01:26 AM PDT by arl295
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To: Citizen Zed

Debunked.

He thinks PA only has 17 delegates!

Keep posting though...


5 posted on 03/24/2016 6:02:05 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: Citizen Zed

This is from the same guy who thought Arizona would go to Cruz.


6 posted on 03/24/2016 6:02:43 AM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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To: Eccl 10:2

Also Nate has Trump at 695 delegate

RCP has him at 739 and I have seen others a little more/less

But 695 is the lowest number I have seen

This guy is a fraud


7 posted on 03/24/2016 6:03:54 AM PDT by arl295
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To: TexasFreeper2009
It'll be interesting. If they can't change the rules to get Kasich nominated, there's some talk that those delegates by law would go to #2 in OH....Trump. Then there's the Rubio delegates. After the dirty deal Cruz played on Rubio, tag-teaming with him against Trump in the debate, then working to destroy him in future primaries, one has to wonder where they go.

This AM Lindsey Graham actually said if it's Trump he'll vote third party, and it would be better to have hillary than four years of Trump!

These folks who don't either support Trump or stay neutral have to go. Example....Portman endorsed Kasich before the primary. He was already in a close race.

8 posted on 03/24/2016 6:04:55 AM PDT by grania
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“Lindsey Graham actually said if it’s Trump he’ll vote third party, and it would be better to have hillary than four years of Trump!”

Lindsey said that? OMG. The GOPe really would rather put the gun to the party’s own head than let Trump do it. Sad thing is if Trump wins ONLY the elite “die”. If Hillary wins...AMERICA DIES as we know it :( This does nothing more than further my belief the GOP establishment is equally wicket as the liberal elites.


9 posted on 03/24/2016 6:15:18 AM PDT by sevinufnine (A moderately bad man knows he is not very good. A thoroughly bad man thinks he's alright. C.S. Lewis)
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To: grania

It just sort of hit me like a lightening bolt today, that Trump is running on a Tea Party platform.

I remember going to the rallies and thinking... these are not traditional conservatives... these people are just as mad about the cuts to medicare as they are about Obamacare being pushed on us, and they don’t seem that interested in social issues at all. They just want to “take our country back”... they are sort of nationalists...

Who does that sound like? TRUMP!

Trump is running a Tea Party campaign, but because the press has managed to damage the Tea Party brand, he isn’t actually proclaiming it.


10 posted on 03/24/2016 6:20:35 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

You are exactly right. Trump is not the Uniparty, just like the Tea Party is not the Uniparty. As such, the Uniparty will sacrifice anything to defeat Trump. If that means the Republicans lose, that’s OK with them. The Republican actors in the Uniparty don’t care, as long as the Uniparty stays in power. The Uniparty will find roles for the RINO losers, as long as the Uniparty stays in power.

The Uniparty has absorbed Cruz - he is no longer one of us.


11 posted on 03/24/2016 6:26:30 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: arl295

“Also Nate has Trump at 695 delegate

RCP has him at 739 and I have seen others a little more/less”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

In fairness on this point, Silver’s analysis was before the 3/22 primaries, and the 58 AZ delegates are in his projected subtotal in the analysis.

I still don’t understand how Silver handles the 54 PA delegates who are somehow uncommitted. He has none of these going to Trump, and that is not realistic, IMHO.


12 posted on 03/24/2016 6:31:44 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Eccl 10:2

It’s really hard to predict the 54 PA delegates. PA seems like it logically would be prime Trump territory, but the state GOP is pretty bad news overall.


13 posted on 03/24/2016 7:18:35 AM PDT by dirtboy
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And in PA, Carsick is rising in the polls. But if I understand the structure, Trump would have to get a roughly proportional number of those 54 delegates, at least 20. Even by Nate’s analysis, that gets him to about 1228, 9 short of the 1237.

Makes American Samoa’s 9 delegates pretty darn important.

It’s going to very close and very contentious. We ain’t seen nothing yet.


14 posted on 03/24/2016 7:26:41 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: dirtboy

Trump has about 750 (when Missouri is finalized).

NY - will get 75+
CA - will get 125+
NJ - 51

So Trump needs roughly 240 from the rest.

It will be close but I think he gets there.


15 posted on 03/24/2016 7:28:26 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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Perception is reality. If this convention is contested, and trump gets bounced, whomever the party sends forth will have major PR issues with Trump’s base of millions of voters.

Chaos bitches...


16 posted on 03/24/2016 7:30:36 AM PDT by ak267
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To: Citizen Zed

What I like is that this prediction is basically worst case scenario - more likely he’ll eke out the number needed.


17 posted on 03/24/2016 7:34:40 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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What needs to be stated is that Kasich and Cruz have NO chance to get 1237 delegates!

Cruz/Kasich/GOPe have only three goals...(a) dupe as many voters as possible to deny Trump 1237 delegates...(b) contest the convention and somehow win it with GOPe backing...(c) somehow try to win back the Trump voters and/or get the stink off a FUBAR convention. And hope Trump don’t go third party.

How many pissed voters will the GOPe write off from this debacle? A believe it will be a noticeable chunk. Enough to sway an election.


18 posted on 03/24/2016 7:52:42 AM PDT by ak267
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To: dirtboy

The GOPe will control the uncommitted delegates in Pennsylvania. They are party regulars and will vote however the party tells them to vote.


19 posted on 03/24/2016 7:52:59 AM PDT by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

This is total BS. I don’t think the guy is counting MO in the 695 count and Trump is going to get way more in NY than is being counted. There are about 29 unbound delegates he can pick up from Rand Paul, Carson and Fiorina right now. I doubt he will have any trouble getting to 1237.

This Nate Silver character is totally anti Trump by the way.


20 posted on 03/24/2016 8:19:26 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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