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Donald Trump Secretly Told The New York Times What He Really Thinks About Immigration
Buzzfeed ^ | 2/29/2016 | Ben Smith

Posted on 02/29/2016 12:47:40 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian

The New York Times is sitting on an audio recording that some of its staff believes could deal a serious blow to Donald Trump who, in an off-the-record meeting with the newspaper, called into question whether he would stand by his own immigration views.

Trump visited the paper’s Manhattan headquarters on Tuesday, Jan. 5, part of a round of editorial board meetings that — as is traditional — the Democratic candidates for president and some of the Republicans attended. The meetings, conducted partly on the record and partly off the record in a 13th floor conference room, give candidates a chance to make their pitch for the paper’s endorsement.

After a dispute over Trump’s suggestion of tariffs on Chinese goods, the Times released a portion of the recording. But that was from the on-the-record part of the session.

n Saturday, columnist Gail Collins, one of the attendees at the meeting (which also included editor-in-chief Dean Baquet), floated a bit of speculation in her column:

The most optimistic analysis of Trump as a presidential candidate is that he just doesn’t believe in positions, except the ones you adopt for strategic purposes when you’re making a deal. So you obviously can’t explain how you’re going to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants, because it’s going to be the first bid in some future monster negotiation session.

Sources familiar with the recording and transcript — which have reached near-mythical status at the Times — tell me that the second sentence is a bit more than speculation. It reflects, instead, something Trump said about the flexibility of his hard-line anti-immigration stance.

So what exactly did Trump say about immigration, about deportations, about the wall? Did he abandon a core promise of his campaign in a private conversation with liberal power brokers in New York?

(Excerpt) Read more at buzzfeed.com ...


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To: TheThirdRuffian

If you think Rubio and Cruz were going after Trump hard, they aint got nothing on the the Liberals in the media. They are just salivating at Trump winning the nomination. His unlikable ratings are about to go from 70% nationwide to 80%.


21 posted on 02/29/2016 12:56:08 PM PST by Durbin
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22 posted on 02/29/2016 12:56:09 PM PST by mkjessup (TRUMP is the windshield, the libtard media, 'RATS, RINOS and cowards are BUGS!! GO TRUMP GO!!)
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To: RginTN

That is absolutely not what the book says.


23 posted on 02/29/2016 12:56:16 PM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: onona

Ben Smith is a Trump hating tool.


24 posted on 02/29/2016 12:56:50 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Nice try...


25 posted on 02/29/2016 12:56:54 PM PST by jokemoke
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To: TheThirdRuffian

That’s like telling you something by not saying they can tell you what they just said. If Trump is dumb enough to run his mouth to scum figuring they would keep their word, then he will ultimately pay for it.


26 posted on 02/29/2016 12:56:56 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

LOL!!!

MORE DESPERATION FROM THE ESTABLISHMENT MEDIA!


27 posted on 02/29/2016 12:56:57 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Texan5

...just take that 13th floor elevator, LOL.

You may already know that “the 13th floor elevators” was the name of Billy Gibbon’s band before ZZ Top.

Tells me the meeting never happened, since the odds of there being a 13th floor are slim to none.

...and all this on leap day.


28 posted on 02/29/2016 12:57:18 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

It does not matter, his supporters do not care. What he probably said is his hardline position is a starting point for negotiation. What actually happens will be somewhere in the middle (or, more likely, nothing will ever get done).

Trump chumps are really being duped by this fraud.


29 posted on 02/29/2016 12:57:36 PM PST by mcjordansc
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“So all they have are rumors?”

There apparently is a transcript, but yes, just talk at this point.

Immigration goes to the core of Trump’s appeal, so if he is misleading on this point, we have the right to know.

I would assume that if the tape is consistent with Trump’s positions, he would be eager to release it — a head fake as noted on the thread.


30 posted on 02/29/2016 12:57:55 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Trump, and Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Start the rumor before Super Tuesday.


31 posted on 02/29/2016 12:59:12 PM PST by kabar
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To: stocksthatgoup

The article says that the statement at issue occurred during a portion of the discussion that the paper agreed was off the record. So now they go around leaking and likely muscharacterizing what Trump said in order to damage him or, in the alternative, create pressure on him to authorize releasing the transcript. This is sleazy, yellow journalism of the worst kind. Pathetic.


32 posted on 02/29/2016 12:59:15 PM PST by Stingray51
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To: mcjordansc

“It does not matter, his supporters do not care.”

They should care if a candidate is saying different things in public than private.

I just want to hear the tape and put an end to it.


33 posted on 02/29/2016 1:00:23 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Trump, and Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Trump shoots from the hip. Once he realized that deporting 12 mil illegals wasn’t workable he altered his thinking.

Good for him


34 posted on 02/29/2016 1:00:34 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

If the NY Times had a bombshell story since Jan 5th...why did have they sat on it for nearly 2 months


35 posted on 02/29/2016 1:01:01 PM PST by calisurfer
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To: Sun
If this is true, NYT might wait to see IF Trump wins the primary and then help Hillary.

A revelation that Trump is a squishy moderate on immigration only hurts him in the primary, not in the general. Releasing it after Trump is the nominee might actually hurt Hillary's attempt to paint him as hard-core anti-immigrant.

36 posted on 02/29/2016 1:01:29 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Durbin
Yep. Remember that the "opposition research" team against Trump includes the IRS, the FBI and others. If Trump isn't as pure as the driven snow, he will be buried under an Avalanche of leaks.

And we all know he isn't pure as driven snow.

37 posted on 02/29/2016 1:02:27 PM PST by Johnny B. (Donald Trump: the choice of the Jerry Springer generation!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Didn’t know there was such a thing as a thirteenth floor.


38 posted on 02/29/2016 1:02:35 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Beholden to no one but himself...he is his own special interest. Whether he wants to go down in the books as the greatest dealmaker in history, or whether he wants to stand on principle is a question he answered for me in Iowa.

Very shortly after Governor Branstad declared that Cruz needed to be defeated, whatever it takes because Cruz had said he would get rid of the ethanol mandate (the Governor;s son is an Ethanol Industry lobbyist), Trump came out saying he supported the mandate and would use the EPA to enforce it to the fullest extent of the law.

Heat off Trump, on Cruz, and no one saw the deal that pledged 10% of our fuel mileage and damage to countless fuel systems for a truce.

That little deal was for Iowa.

I wonder what he'll trade (of ours) for a bigger state?

39 posted on 02/29/2016 1:02:36 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Stingray51

“This is sleazy, yellow journalism of the worst kind. Pathetic.”

Only if what Trump said off the record is inconsistent with what he proclaims publicly.

If it’s consistent, it’s a good thing for Trump.

If Trump is really weak on immigration, then, yes, this would be a bad thing.


40 posted on 02/29/2016 1:02:48 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Trump, and Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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