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You Blew It, Kasich, Move Aside
Townhall.com ^ | February 28, 2016 | Matt Barber

Posted on 02/28/2016 4:35:14 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: BeadCounter
I know this goes against conservative orthodoxy, but I don't really care about the SSM issue. It simply doesn't effect my own marriage at all... things I do, yeah that effects my marriage. Stuff two guys who I don't even know... they don't impact me in any way.

Now, I absolutely DO support religious exemptions for businesses. A "live and let live" philosophy. If someone doesn't want to sell you a cake, just go to someone else. You can't legislate acceptance or celebration.

On the issue of life... that is MY non-negotiable.

21 posted on 02/28/2016 6:27:16 PM PST by TontoKowalski (Satisfied Customer #291)
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To: Rustybucket

Kasich supports amnesty.


22 posted on 02/28/2016 6:35:21 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Yuge 2016)
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To: All

Kasich is not well-liked in Ohio. Here’s a YouTube video of him where he calls a police officer an idiot because he was pulled over. Kasich traffic stop:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nTf_qyRXhxk&feature=share


23 posted on 02/28/2016 6:36:44 PM PST by CharlotteVRWC
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To: Kaslin

Kasich is fine with persecuting Christian business owners. He’s moved on from the first amendment. It’s the “law of the land”.


24 posted on 02/28/2016 6:42:36 PM PST by Phillyred
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To: BeadCounter

Maybe he was nervous?


25 posted on 02/28/2016 7:33:21 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: TontoKowalski

It came up for us when they threatened to bomb/kill/assault people at our private religious for refusing admission to a lesbian’s daughter, because they taught traditional religious values at mass each day.
They declined the child to avoid conflicts for that family of “Mommy, Mommy 2, the priest says you’re a sinner”, and then were smeared in the media AND no one reported death threats on the principal, threats to burn down the school, etc. Police said it was almost all from out of town, so there was nothing to prosecute.

The LBGTA try to get into such institutions and demand such in the name of tolerance, then demand groups STOP teaching what they teach because it is hurtful to them.

It is a deliberate invasion of institutions to force them to change to accommodate the minority. You can not only be shouted down and smeared if not hate mobbed out of a job for expressing a politically incorrect opinion in public and online, but they seek to destroy all institutions that teach traditional religious views as well. And that is an assault on our freedom of religion, freedom of association and freedom of speech.


26 posted on 02/28/2016 7:41:34 PM PST by tbw2
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To: tbw2
Thank you for the insight, and sharing your experience.

That's exactly what I'm against, as I posted.

My philosophy on this is libertarian (not liberal). Live the way you want, but don't expect everyone to agree with you, accept you, or celebrate you.

27 posted on 02/28/2016 7:47:40 PM PST by TontoKowalski (Satisfied Customer #291)
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To: Rustybucket
John Kasich has consistently been an interesting person in all the debates. He finds middle ground...

"Middle ground" is weasel language for compromised principles. You cannot allow both religious liberty and sexual perverts their wishes. It's impossible.

28 posted on 02/29/2016 6:23:18 AM PST by fwdude
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To: TontoKowalski; BeadCounter
On the issue of life... that is MY non-negotiable.

Earlier in your comment, you said that SSM just doesn't affect your marriage and so it doesn't concern you. Well, how does abortion (I assume that's what you mean by "life") affect you either? You are making an incoherent argument.

29 posted on 02/29/2016 6:41:21 AM PST by fwdude
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To: Kaslin

News to all you Trumpeters, Trump agrees with Kasich on this issue.


30 posted on 02/29/2016 6:44:39 AM PST by fwdude
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To: fwdude; BeadCounter
I don't think my position is incoherent at all.

Two consenting adults having sex (or calling themselves "married") is simply not something I care about. The argument used to be how it weakened the institution of marriage. I haven't found that to be true in my own case. If it has somehow had an impact on you, I'd be interested in knowing exactly how.

My post also included my support for religious freedom. Businesses, including private schools, should not be forced to cater.

The slaughtering of unborn children is something we all should care about. It is morally no different than entering a hospital nursery with a machete.

31 posted on 02/29/2016 6:54:39 AM PST by TontoKowalski (Satisfied Customer #291)
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To: Vermont Lt

Don’t be surprised if Kasich gets the nod for VP.


32 posted on 02/29/2016 7:03:38 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: TontoKowalski

Again, the slaughter of unborn children doesn’t affect you, if that is the controlling criteria you’re using to justify, or at least disclaim, any affect of marriage redefinition. You can’t have it both ways. If marriage redefinition doesn’t affect you, then the slaughter of innocent children doesn’t affect you in the same way either.

Just admit that you simply don’t care about the dilution of the meaning of marriage. I’d at least respect your honesty.


33 posted on 02/29/2016 7:10:29 AM PST by fwdude
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To: Georgia Girl 2

If that is what it takes to win Ohio in the General Election I suppose.


34 posted on 02/29/2016 7:40:16 AM PST by BeadCounter (,)
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Well at some point when its clear Trump is winning and nothing can stop his nomination the party and Trump will start mending fences. It has to happen and Kasich is a faithful party foot soldier. He’s the Joe Biden of the GOP. So it would not shock me if he gets tapped for VP. Or Rudy.


35 posted on 02/29/2016 7:47:30 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Well I amend my VP comment to delete Rudy as he’s from NY and not eligible if Trump is the nominee. I feel certain Kasich is on the short list.


36 posted on 02/29/2016 7:48:53 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: tbw2
The left and especially the homosexuals and all their followers are a total threat to our liberties. They are facists, I know they like to call Christians facists, but are we forcing people to believe our God, with threats of job loss, business lost and homelessness?

They not only threaten, but do bring suits and win many of these court cases and we just sit around a opine. The florist in Washington state has lost her 30 year business, her home due to no income from her business and has drained her 401K account to defend herself. she has nothing else left, they have utterly destroyed her and all who see what happens to you if you go against the facists.

Look what they did to Governor Perry, the facists on a grand jury indicted him for vetoing a budget item?? Of course he is exonerated from all charges with his day in court, but what about his reputation? What about his career? utterly destroyed by the facists, thats what they do!

37 posted on 02/29/2016 7:58:36 AM PST by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I think that is possible. He would be the “political” guy that Trump needs.

But who knows.


38 posted on 02/29/2016 8:03:29 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: TontoKowalski

Not sure about that, he does not let anyone speculate what he stands for, and outlines his position, like it or not, clearly.


39 posted on 02/29/2016 9:10:01 AM PST by Rustybucket
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To: Pollster1

Do not misunderstand my statement please. I fully agree with you, except I would not stand by someone who got physical with one of these people. I firmly believe that shop owners and businesses should be able to reserve the right to refuse business to anyone. So what if it was to refuse service to black people? Still feel the same way?


40 posted on 02/29/2016 9:12:18 AM PST by Rustybucket
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