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Trump is right unless Ted Cruz can somehow convince the U.S. Supreme Court.

If Cruz gets the nomination, then just know the DNC, along with GOPe, will shop a federal judge to disqualify Cruz. Then at the Republican convention the delegates will nominate Mr. Gang of 8 Rubio.

1 posted on 02/05/2016 11:33:35 AM PST by Enlightened1
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According to that criteria, Cruz is a citizen. This still dodges the question of “natural born citizen,” a distinction that the drafters of the Constitution made between senators and representatives having to be a “citizen” and the president having to be a “natural born citizen,” with both parents citizens of the U.S. The reason, as I understand it, was the founders wanted the president, above all, to have no divided loyalties. Obama, who would not have been considered a natural born citizen, has shown what divided loyalties gets us.


81 posted on 02/05/2016 12:27:54 PM PST by Hootowl
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Did you not read the following or am I misinterpeting it?

“Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other
parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military
and diplomatic service included in this time)”

and you finish with the following...
.. Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to
run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families
to be considered natural-born, for example...

then your comment after the body of the article:

Trump is right unless Ted Cruz can somehow convince the U.S. Supreme Court.

If Cruz gets the nomination, then just know the DNC, along with GOPe, will shop a federal
judge to disqualify Cruz. Then at the Republican convention the delegates will nominate
Mr. Gang of 8 Rubio.


85 posted on 02/05/2016 12:31:49 PM PST by deport
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Seems like this one fills the bill.

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time).

As long as Ted’s mother lived for 5 years in the US, he’s in.


86 posted on 02/05/2016 12:32:21 PM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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The Constitution talks about two types of citizens, natural-born and naturalized. As Ted Cruz has never gone through the naturalization process does that make him natural-born? Or is he here illegally, having never gone through that process? Because unless you want to add something to the Constitution that isn’t there, you only have those 3 choices - natural-born, naturalized, and here illegally.


88 posted on 02/05/2016 12:33:13 PM PST by Reaper19
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What’s a little thing like not being eligible when Rev. Cruz is on his crusade? Let’s just put this aside and hope Alan Grayson is only kidding.


91 posted on 02/05/2016 12:36:23 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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So you are saying the definition of "natural born citizen" as used in Constitutional language changes as fast as US Code changes ... without Constitutional amendment ... by a simple majority vote in Congress. Why do you think the Constitutional amendment process was defined when, as you propose, regular legislation can re-write the Constitution simply be redefining the words it uses without pesky things like ratification by two-thirds of both houses of Congress getting in the way? How will you react when words like "militia" or "infringe" or "republic" are similarly redefined? We are tempted to open Pandora's Box when it suits our interestes ... but we should resist. I support Cruz as a conservative in full revolution mode. But he's not a natural born citizen, and we should not call him that, because (hopefully) we will return this nation to a Constitutional democratic republic. And at that time, the term "natural born citizen" provides an umbrella of protection we will sorely need. Just look what happened when that rule was ignored and Obama became POTUS.


99 posted on 02/05/2016 12:44:10 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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This is a pretty dumb interpretation.

It would disqualify the first 8 presidents, none of whom were born in the “United States” or were citizens at the time, as the U.S. didn’t exist until arguably 1776 at the earliest.


100 posted on 02/05/2016 12:45:40 PM PST by Elpasser
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Lets see what Art. II has to say: No person except a natural born Citizen or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, she be eligible to the Office of President...

So, here we see the distinction between a citizen and a "Natural born" citizen. Now, just what did natural born mean? Well, I believe that it meant that both of your parents would have to have been citizens at the time of your birth. Note the exception in the wording, "...or a Citizen of the United States at the time...". I think it is plain that "Natural Born" is defined here as both parents being Citizens at the time of birth. Just MHO.

104 posted on 02/05/2016 12:54:00 PM PST by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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btt


111 posted on 02/05/2016 1:11:57 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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nat·u·ralˈnaCH(ə)rəl/

adjective

1. existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind.


I don’t know why many of you find this to be so difficult a concept to understand.

No law is required. No statute is required. No rule is required. No regulation is required.

A child born of 2 citizen parents, in his country (or jurisdiction of his country) is a natural born citizen. It’s so obvious and simple to understand. Sheesh....


114 posted on 02/05/2016 1:15:22 PM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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Then at the Republican convention the delegates will nominate Mr. Gang of 8 Rubio.

You do know, don't you, that you purists consider Rubio even LESS of an NBC than Ted?

Hoo Boy. You anti-birthers are a hoot!

120 posted on 02/05/2016 1:22:07 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Is Ted Cruz a US Citizen? Yeah? Then Shut Up and Vote for Him.)
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Typical anti-bither nonsense.

You post a headline DENYING that Cruz is eligible.

Then you post an article SUPPORTING the reasons Cruz is eligible.

(See tagline)


123 posted on 02/05/2016 1:23:51 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Is Ted Cruz a US Citizen? Yeah? Then Shut Up and Vote for Him.)
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Another troll


201 posted on 02/05/2016 4:30:42 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (Ná tabhair shilíní le muca nó comhairle do amadáin)
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