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Trump is right unless Ted Cruz can somehow convince the U.S. Supreme Court.

If Cruz gets the nomination, then just know the DNC, along with GOPe, will shop a federal judge to disqualify Cruz. Then at the Republican convention the delegates will nominate Mr. Gang of 8 Rubio.

1 posted on 02/05/2016 11:33:35 AM PST by Enlightened1
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It does not matter whether Cruz is qualified or not he is going to be allowed to run and if elected he will be sworn in. So if you don’t want Cruz find another reason.


33 posted on 02/05/2016 11:48:28 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

Cruz was born outside the U.S. to one parent who was not a U.S. citizen and one parent who was, and who had lived in the U.S. for at least five continuous years, more that two of which were after she was fourteen. So by your own definition he a natural-born citizen.

34 posted on 02/05/2016 11:49:12 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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The courts are either going to decide or the Soros SOSs will.

It isnt that hard to figure out.


35 posted on 02/05/2016 11:50:09 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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Rumor is, Trump will be returing to New York to manage his empire!

Vote Cruz!

Hey! ...it worked with the Carson supporters thought it might work on you guys. hehe

36 posted on 02/05/2016 11:50:21 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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A case has been made that Cruz is an NBC.

A case has been made that Cruz is not.

Does the Supreme Court have the cojones to declare Cruz to not be an NBC?

That is the real question that needs to be answered.

The Supreme Court as a whole did not have the cojones to declare Obamacare unconstitutional. What person is his/her right mind thinks that the Supreme Court just recently grew testicles?

37 posted on 02/05/2016 11:50:54 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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Did you not even read what you posted? The body of your post proves your comment false.


39 posted on 02/05/2016 11:53:28 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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If Cruz gets the nomination...

Then President Cruz' attorneys can keep it going round and round in the courts for eight years.
43 posted on 02/05/2016 11:56:14 AM PST by Resettozero
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With all the posters pointing to the article YOU posted to prove Cruz is indeed a Natural Born Citizen; don’t you feel stupid?


45 posted on 02/05/2016 11:56:42 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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What you have proved here, Enlightened1, beyond a shadow of a doubt, is that Ted Cruz IS a natural born citizen. You’ve even quoted the law that explicitly says so. And rulings in a couple of states just in the past few days have confirmed his eligibility. Talk about a nothing-burger. . . .


46 posted on 02/05/2016 11:56:46 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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Orly, is that you?


47 posted on 02/05/2016 11:57:17 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Worst 8 years ever, First Affirmative Action President, I hope those who did this to us SUFFER MOST!)
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Are you asserting that no one was a citizen of the United States before the 14th Amendment was written?

If not, and we did in fact have citizens before 1868, then the enumeration of rights listed in the 14th must be treated the same as those in the Bill of Rights. In short, it is listing specifically what cannot be denied, but it is not exclusionary. If you insist that the wording of the 14th must be exclusionary (no rights not specifically listed are granted) then you must read all other amendments the same way, e.g. the Second Amendment says nothing about repeating rifles, so they aren't covered.

In fact, the source you list for your VANITY states that your are wrong:
"Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)...Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President."

51 posted on 02/05/2016 11:58:11 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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I understand two states judicial bodies (Illinois and NH- hardly conservative strongholds) have ruled Cruz eligible. After two pretty precedent setting decisions, courts tend to fall inline unless there is compelling reasons to overturn or go in an opposing view.

I think this horse is tired of being beat.

55 posted on 02/05/2016 12:00:18 PM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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Unfortunately there is no “fill in gaps” law needed here. Natural born citizen is an easily understood phrase. Whatever it meant when the Framers wrote the Constitution is how it should be applied today.. PERIOD.


57 posted on 02/05/2016 12:02:00 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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The problem is no one has the balls to assert the truth on this issue. People in positions who can believe it is too much trouble because of the blow back they would get.


62 posted on 02/05/2016 12:07:08 PM PST by Red Steel
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Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth. He did not need to be naturalized later. Thus, by your own standard, he is eligible to be President.

63 posted on 02/05/2016 12:07:12 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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(a) I, personally, am of the opinion that Cruz is not NBC...yet, we have approved Obamugabe (01/20/2009).

Therefore, Cruz is 100% eligible for POTUS based on POTUS.

If the Dhimmicrats want to argue otherwise, they must, necessarily, expose Obamugabe’s CV/Bona Fides; which they are not willing to do.

Ultimately, only arguments regarding Cruz’s eligibility will be “intra-party”. Tell these pubbie ^STOOPIDS^ to STFU!


64 posted on 02/05/2016 12:07:19 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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I assume that Cruz's lawyers argued your third-from-last proviso before the Illinois and New Hampshire election commissions--both of which commissions found Cruz to be an American citizen from birth.

As I understand the laws, Obama, on the other hand, would not be a citizen from birth if he was actually born in Kenya (since his mom did not meet the specific statutory requirement of having lived in the US for five years after her 14th birthday). And since Obama was never naturalized, he is not an American citizen at all if he was born in Kenya.

That being a bizarre possibility, the opinions of numerous documents experts who are convinced that the Long-Form Birth Certificate released by Loretta Fuddy in Hawaii is an outright forgery amount to monumentally serious allegations. (Maybe Trump will get back to this now that Arpaio has endorsed him, but I doubt it.)

66 posted on 02/05/2016 12:07:36 PM PST by the_doc
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Here your problem... there’s room for interpretation

The pro Cruz people interpret it that he is a natural born citizen

The anti Cruz people will interpret it that he’s not a natural born citizen

Here all our problem.... The pro Cruz people forget we are trying to take down the powers that be in DC... the Dems the Republicans, ... and the politicized Supreme Court and court system..... the whole power establish ....

So that whol power establishment will be run by the anti Cruz people...

And thet will rule in the end when they need to ..should Cruz get elected that Cruz is not a natural born citizen it’s their ace in the hole.... it’s their plausible excuse to simply eliminate Cruz as a threat in thier worst case scenario of Cruz got elected.

The pro Cruz people with stay willfully blind to the fact that our common enemy in DC have a legal maneuver emergency killswitch on any kind of Cruz aministration if it becomes a threat to them.... they’re saving it until they need it and where screwed...

Cruz has an Achilles heel that Cruz has never addressed and his fans don’t want to see it


71 posted on 02/05/2016 12:13:36 PM PST by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans Patriot%s are in rebellion... teach him why)
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Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President.
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Where is the authority for this bold statement? A statute or Congressional resolution (McCain) can not amend the Constitution. It is what it is and under strict interpretation, the Federal courts when interpreting the Constitution must adhere to the original intent of the document at the time of its drafting. The list of “citizens” is taken from the Code so it is a statutorily endowed list by Congress. Congress has no authority to change what the Constitution demands with regard to “natural born citizen.” Under the Constitution, Congress has plenary power with regard to immigration matters but that does not extend to interpreting, changing, or amending the Constitution.
72 posted on 02/05/2016 12:13:44 PM PST by iontheball
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We decided that John McCain was eligible eight years ago - and I agree - eligible but a terrible choice. America’s enemies decided that Barack Hussein was okay by their so-called standards eight years ago.

The precedent is set: The president has to have a birth certificate showing birth to a US citizen, whether or not that birth was on US soil, and whether or not both parents were citizens.

Cruz is a natural born citizen under the precedent set for that undefined constitutional term. If you don’t like him, don’t vote for him, but I believe it’s time to move on to substance and issues. We’ve had many dozens of threads on Cruz and his birth, probably hundreds, and we are well past the point where they contribute to the discussion.


80 posted on 02/05/2016 12:26:27 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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