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To: armydawg505

I rarely pull out my dusty old trident, but in this case, here goes. I was a Navy SEAL officer in the 1980s, and this kind of operation (transiting small boats in foreign waters) was our bread and butter. Today, these boats both not only had radar, but multiple GPS devices, including chart plotters that place your boat’s icon right on the chart. The claim by Iran that the USN boats “strayed into Iranian waters” is complete bull$#it.

For an open-water transit between nations, the course is studied and planned in advance by the leaders of the Riverine Squadron, with specific attention given to staying wide and clear of any hostile nation’s claimed territorial waters. The boats are given a complete mechanical check before departure, and they have sufficient fuel to accomplish their mission plus extra. If, for some unexplainable and rare circumstance one boat broke down, the other would tow it, that’s why two boats go on these trips and not one! It’s called “self-rescue” and it’s SOP.

This entire situation is in my area of expertise. I can state with complete confidence that both Iran and our own State Department are lying. The boats did not enter Iranian waters. They were overtaken in international waters by Iranian patrol boats that were so superior in both speed and firepower that it became a “hands up!” situation, with automatic cannons in the 40mm to 76mm range pointed at them point-blank. Surrender, hands up, or be blown out of the water. I assume that the Iranians had an English speaker on a loudspeaker to make the demand. This takedown was no accident or coincidence, it was a planned slap across America’s face.

Just watch. The released sailors will be ordered not to say a word about the incident, and the Iranians will have taken every GPS device, chart-plotters etc off the boats, so that we will not be able to prove where our boats were taken.

The “strayed into Iranian waters” story being put out by Iran and our groveling and appeasing State Dept. is utter and complete BS from one end to the other.


14 posted on 01/13/2016 12:29:54 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I was also a commissioned officer in the same time frame as you. My first reaction was, did they throw sensitive items overboard when they saw the Iranians coming or decided they could not resist? How could two boats break down at the same time or stray into Iranian waters with all the technology available today. And the SOP you mentioned was SOP in our day but who knows what Obama has done to readiness now. Also, who was the senior officer on board and how did he allow this to happen?


19 posted on 01/13/2016 12:45:36 PM PST by armydawg505
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To: Travis McGee

I said yesterday that Obama was going to use this situation as a gimmick to show how great his Nukes to Iran deal was - that since the deal - we are now BFF’s with Iran and sure enough....

That clown puppet Earnest went splooging all over himself with how lucky we are that Obama is nuclear arming the Iranians.


21 posted on 01/13/2016 12:58:18 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Is Ted Cruz a US citizen? Yeah? Then Shut Up and Sit Down.)
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To: Travis McGee

On another thread, I said this is a reverse “false flag” op, done with cooperation of the “enemy”.


26 posted on 01/13/2016 1:34:23 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (Radical Muslims want to behead you, moderateate Muslims want to watch and cheer.)
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To: Retain Mike; Travis McGee

Thanks. Thanks.


29 posted on 01/13/2016 1:59:11 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Travis McGee

I’m willing to bet that Iran got more than an apology I’ll bet they’ll get more money in addition to the money there getting from the end of the sanctions. I’ll also bet they could possibly get a sortment, of weapons wouldn’t you agree?


35 posted on 01/13/2016 9:48:31 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (vote for Tom Hoefling for President 2016 it's time for a real conservative to be in Whitehouse)
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