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To: WhiskeyX

interesting.....so you have to get your blood sugars in the normal range before you can loose weight.


2 posted on 12/02/2015 9:08:57 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

“so you have to get your blood sugars in the normal range before you can loose weight”

No. You need to get your insulin levels into normal range, if you want to lose weight.


7 posted on 12/02/2015 10:01:53 PM PST by jdege
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To: cherry

“interesting.....so you have to get your blood sugars in the normal range before you can loose weight”

Paradoxically, yes and no.

The high blood sugar levels cause horrible damage. High blood glucose levels cause the levels of hormonal insulin to also become elevated above normal levels. As the insulin levels become elevated, the hormones regulating whether or not fat in the adipose tissues is burned by the metabolism or kept locked away so the metabolism cannot use the fats to burn for energy switch to the mode storing fats and not allowing them to be used for energy. Over a number of years the body and its metabolism tries to keep pace with the high levels of glucose in the blood by maintaining higher and higher insulin levels necessary to allow the cells to metabolize the glucose, removing the glucose from the blood.

Eventually, the liver, pancreas, and insulin receptors on the cellular membranes become fattened to the point where their functions become increasingly impaired. This is reflected by an increasing waist line which is becoming more and more difficult to stop with caloric reductions in the diet and increasing levels of exercise. This is the beginnings of a condition described as a metabolic syndrome. An indication of when males are experiencing metabolic syndrome is when their waist measurements reach and exceed 40 inches.

After this point the weight gains are becoming very difficult to stop, much less reverse without extreme actions. Even with extreme actions, any weight lost is usually regained soon after and with more added. In the next stage the liver, pancreas, and insulin receptors are becoming so impaired by fat, the insulin insensitivity of the cellular membranes begin to require more insulin than the pancreas is still capable of producing in its impaired state. As a consequence, the glucose uptake from the bloodstream by the cells is insufficient to keep the average glucose levels within normal ranges part of the time. This is when a physician may tell a patient they have pre-Diabetes Type II.

Over another period of time conditions worsen, and now the pancreas can no longer keep up with the glucose levels in the bloodstream, so the blood glucose levels become hyperglycemic and a patient is diagnosed to have Diabetes mellitus Type II. Typical diabetic medications are designed to help the pancreas to produce more insulin. The increases in the insulin results in more of the regulatory hormones storing fat in the adipose tissues and not allowing the fat to be used by the metabolism. This results in more weight gain, more need for insulin, and more weight gain in a vicious circle spiraling towards disaster and eventual failure of the body to accommodate to all the damage being caused.

Since most diabetic medications are used to cause insulin levels to be maintained or increased, they also make it virtually impossible to lose weight and reduce the fat in the liver and pancreas, unless another means of removing glucose from the blood is used. So, those types of drugs work against the ability to get fat out of the liver and pancreas and thereby reduce the blood sugars coming in the most part from carbohydrates (sugars) and any glucose created by the metabolism from protein (muscle) whenever carbohydrates are unavailable and fat is locked away in storage because of high insulin levels. To fix this problem then requires removing most the carbohydrates which are the principal source of the blood glucose going into the bloodstream. Also, any proteins in excess of the normal requirement of the metabolism must be eliminated to prevent them from being converted into glucose and stored fat. Since there are only three macronutrients; fat, carbohydrates, and protein; the only remaining macronutrient left to replace the carbohydrates and protein is fat.

As it turns out, whenever excess glucose has been mostly depleted from the body, the body uses the regulatory hormones to switch from storing fats to removing fats from the adipose tissues in the body and converts them into ketones the cells are capable of burning for fuel in the place of the glucose they formerly used for energy. This results in the dietary fats being consumed and the body fats being consumed during periods of fasting while sleeping and between meals. After a period of 12 weeks the fatty liver is reported by these physicians to lose 50 percent of of its fats within two weeks while in this state of nutritional ketosis and 80 percent of the fats after some 12 weeks. AS these fats are removed from the liver and the pancreas by this nutritional ketosis, the ability of the pancreas to produce insulin improves, the liver function improves, and the insulin receptors on the cellular membranes heal without the fats impairing their insulin sensitivity, and the blood glucose levels begin to improve in the direction of becoming normal again.

See some of the videos on YouTube and FreeRepublic discussions about them:

Nutritional Health Series, Part 1:

Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3357352/posts

Nutritional Health Series, Part 11

The Aetiology of Obesity Part 1 of 6: A New Hope

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3360044/posts


9 posted on 12/02/2015 11:44:34 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: cherry

In a way.

Forget your blood sugars. Think only about insulin. You can have high insulin, not be able to lose weight, and still have normal BGs.

Insulin makes you fat. Period. There is no other hormone that can store fat.

So tackle insulin. No carbs, moderate fat, proper protein.

(Protein can trigger insulin and fat storage, so it’s important to get just what you need to maintain your muscle - unless you’re exercising to build muscle - then you’ll need more.)

But I’m assuming that we’re talking about straight fat loss here.


19 posted on 12/03/2015 1:22:51 AM PST by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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