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"I'm shouting a warning as loud as I can - Humans are a catastrophe for the Earth"
National Post ^ | Nov. 30, 2015 | India Sturgis, The Telegraph

Posted on 11/30/2015 5:51:22 PM PST by rickmichaels

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To: rickmichaels

He sounds like an obsessive-compulsive, utopian extremist.


41 posted on 11/30/2015 11:34:39 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Here’s a good one:

Wip Schnapper
So the man drives an electric car, uses solar panels, eschews all meat & animal products (and apparently his wife too when she chose not to follow his lead), and tosses his employees outside with the smokers to eat their flesh laden lunches.

One wonders how he ever made his way to China and Japan to film his undercover initiatives, or how his fellow fervent environmental adherents got over to this week’s summit in Paris. Did he and they travel on those big old nasty fuel guzzling jets, or on something less detrimental to our shared environment? Perhaps via balloons carried along on trade wind currents in wicker baskets high above the minions they endlessly lecture? If so, how were those balloons heated?

I’m waiting for one of those self-righteous crusaders to go all in. Although Mr. Gore let us down so long ago, maybe Mr. Psihoyos can demonstrate how it can be - rather than cherry picking the practices and beliefs they wish to wrap around themselves as they continue to wag their fingers at the masses. In for a penny, in for a pound.


42 posted on 11/30/2015 11:36:51 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: IAMNO1
Cool. So if Al Qaeda or ISIS murder and maim innocent men, women and children, its all natural, because humans (such as they) are a part of nature, as much as tree frogs or algae are. After all, they're doing it, so it must be a part of nature, right? Okay, what am I missing here, given your exact (and only) words above? I'm asking politely (this go-around).

My point has nothing to do with good and evil. Both are part of the natural order. Of course, our job is to fight evil and promote good. But man evolved (or was created) in and of this world. We are part of it for all of our shortcomings.

I only made the comment to contest the "green" notion that somehow human beings are an alien disruptive force in an other wise pristine natural order and should be extirpated.

Natural does not necessarily mean good. The most potent poison in snakes or plants are natural, but we would hardly call them good.

And thank you for asking politely.

43 posted on 12/01/2015 5:11:05 AM PST by Blennos
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“I only made the comment to contest the “green” notion that somehow human beings are an alien disruptive force in an other wise pristine natural order and should be extirpated.

Thanks for the polite discourse too. I do believe humans are certainly a disruptive force (amongst many types of forces they exhibit), but not an alien one. And I don’t espouse that the natural order is wise and pristine at all. In fact, I’ve been known to say that if God does exist, he’s a real bastard for creating such an inhumane world that thrives on one organism killing another (and the organisms doing the killing thriving as well). A devil couldn’t have done a better job of creating this world. (Okay, no lightning strikes so I’ll proceed). But not putting Man’s actions in a separate class above and beyond the rest of nature is like saying man is made of matter, therefore he is just like the rest of the universe. I believe we should differentiate ourselves and hold ourselves to the highest standards. That would be my emphasis, not cloaking us as just another part of of the natural order. We are certainly not. We are unique (at least until the machines take over).


44 posted on 12/01/2015 8:03:05 AM PST by IAMNO1 (Enough with the divisions. Lets get somebody in there who'll fix this mess.)
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Thanks for the polite discourse too. I do believe humans are certainly a disruptive force (amongst many types of forces they exhibit), but not an alien one. And I don’t espouse that the natural order is wise and pristine at all. In fact, I’ve been known to say that if God does exist, he’s a real bastard for creating such an inhumane world that thrives on one organism killing another (and the organisms doing the killing thriving as well). A devil couldn’t have done a better job of creating this world. (Okay, no lightning strikes so I’ll proceed). But not putting Man’s actions in a separate class above and beyond the rest of nature is like saying man is made of matter, therefore he is just like the rest of the universe. I believe we should differentiate ourselves and hold ourselves to the highest standards. That would be my emphasis, not cloaking us as just another part of of the natural order. We are certainly not. We are unique (at least until the machines take over).

I agree with much of what you said. I too have often had the wish that G-d had made the world differently, not one in which everything was killing and eating everything else. Given that we indeed live in such a world, we simply do the best we can.

As far as man being unique in the universe, well, let me simply say that the universe is a vast place with many surprises for us yet to discover.

45 posted on 12/01/2015 8:18:24 AM PST by Blennos
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
...his new documentary, Racing Extinction. In it, Psihoyos and scientists explain how man's impact on the Earth is driving a new mass extinction, killing species at 1,000 times the background rate (the normal rate of extinction throughout the Earth's history), and that within 100 years half of the world's species will be extinct.
That'll be good though, because the oceans will have risen 300 feet, there won't be enough space for all of 'em.

Crockumentary Alert!


46 posted on 12/01/2015 11:40:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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