Posted on 11/06/2015 1:06:48 PM PST by sparklite2
The children of same-sex parents will be banned from blessings and baptism until they turn 18 and disavow gay marriage under a new Mormon Church policy that deems homosexual parents to be apostates, or people who have renounced their faith.
The new policies are part of "Handbook 1," a guide for lay leaders of the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which has the actively fought gay marriage. It was a Utah case that helped set the table for the U.S. Supreme Court to legalize gay marriage across the country in June.
The changes in the handbook were first posted Thursday on Facebook by John Dehlin, who said he was excommunicated earlier this year for being an advocate for civil same-sex marriage and the ordination of women to the all-male Mormon priesthood. Posting the documents set off a storm in the social media universe.
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Harming the innocent party is not the way to go.
Oops.
I guess the feds are going to have to shut down the Mormons...
I thought they were going in the opposite (liberal) direction. Maybe the ‘jury’ is still out.
If someone gets exposed to a deadly and infectious disease they get quarantined until they’re shown to be healthy.
Guilt or innocence has nothing to do with it.
I’m not pro-LDS but this action of theirs certainly makes practical sense in a time when queers brag about infiltrating and destroying religions from within.
Knowing the homo lobby, they would use their "baptized children" as a battering ram to tear down the church. Kids raised by homo couples have little hope of turning out normal.
If they beat the odds, they can always apply at age 18. I don't see anyway to win this thing.
This isn’t exactly an oddity. Most religions require that the parents and God Parents be members in good standing of the Church in order to have a baptism performed for the child.
FEMA has plenty of barbed wire and ammunition. All they need is a list.
This harms no one. They are trying to infiltrate this church. There is plenty of biblical admonition to cast out heretics. It's a shame that a child is being used as a tool, but that guild will fall on these sexual reprobates.
Infant baptism is a promise by the parents to raise their children in the doctrine of that church. By the very fact that Homosexuals would be in active homosexual relationships, whether condoned by civil law or not, would be in direct contradiction of church doctrine and would preclude the child from baptism.
Do not understand how seme-sex marriage can actually produce children. If they mean adopted children, it would be of tactical benefit to make that clear. Conervatives should not embrace fictions that deny the reality of origins and conception.
“Do not understand how seme-sex marriage can actually produce children.”
Turkey basters.
Therefore gay-married Mormon people should not manufacture or adopt kids.
Mormon baptism is not the same as Catholic/Christian baptism -- they are different in kind --- but I know that in the Catholic Church, infant baptism must be predicated on the well-founded expectation that the child will be raised Catholic. This is why you can't just go about grabbing kids and baptizing them.
If the parents think their same-sex "marriage" is fundamentally right, and therefore the Mormons are fundamentally wrong, why would they want their child to be baptized Mormon? If they did, it would seem like a set-up to me.
Not sure this is harming the innocent. The LDS leadership may argue it does no harm for a person not to be baptized until they're 18 and can make their own decision in the matter.
Mormon baptism is not the same as Catholic/Christian baptism -- they are different in kind --- but I know that in the Catholic Church, infant baptism must be predicated on the well-founded expectation that the child will be raised Catholic. This is why you can't just go about grabbing kids and baptizing them.
If the parents think their same-sex "marriage" is fundamentally right, and therefore the Mormons are fundamentally wrong, why would they want their child to be baptized Mormon? If they did, it would seem like a set-up to me.
You mean, “father unknown?”
Mormons don’t Baptize their babies, no one can be baptized until the age of 8. They do however perform a blessing where the child is given a name that is recorded in the records of The Church. The child is then called “a child of record” until they turn 8 and are baptized. If not baptized at the age of 8 then they are still a child of record until they are either baptized or request their names be removed as a child of record.
The thing is only parents that are members can have their children blessed as a rule. So while it may look like there is a policy change there isn’t. The child could not have been blessed anyway because the parents are not members of The Church, they will have been excommunicated after being married to a same sex partner.
There is no harm done to the child except that if the parents continue to come to church (doubtful) the child will be associating with other children (after the age of 8) that have been baptized and they will have to wait another 10 years, which might be something that would happen but I don’t see it as being a high probability.
While there is no change by formalizing this process it is wise for The Church to make it clear in their handbook. Mormons don’t have a trained clergy, the leadership could call anybody in the congregation to be the leader or Bishop of the congregation. The handbook is very helpful to these leaders who may have only been in The Church for a short period of time.
I am more than a little impressed that the leadership of Mormon Church would make this a public matter and put doctrine before perception and political correctness. Hats off to the Mormons, I wish all churches could be so bold.
Same-sex marriage doesn’t “produce” children, but I think it’s still true that most children in same-sex households are the natural children of one partner (from a previous heterosexual marriage or liaison) and are adopted by the other partner.p>
Then there’s artificial insemination, IVF, and surrogacy, all of them pretty crass violations of the children’s natural rights and dignity.
Thass rasist!
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