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This has popped up a few times since a stupid article says that they think the company is doing alright, even though the owner has flushed his own finances into the toilet bowl to prop it up.

It is fine that it is his own money or his family’s money this guy is throwing down that conceptual socialistic rathole. (although, there is an angle that he is throwing away money that should be going to a sibling who doesn’t support this stupid approach)

Here something I see as a problem with this scenario: this guy is using his own money and the future of his company to advance socialistic concepts and the utterly moronic concept of “fairness” in wages. To anyone who thinks that “socialism is only government”, that is fine. But what of it when someone in government like Obama or virtually every person who is a member of his party uses this flawed “experiment in wage fairness” as “proof” that it is possible to run things this way, and references it to get legislation passed. Is it not part and parcel of that process?

If Bernie Sanders points to this farce as proof that his concepts “work” and convinces enough idiot voters to elect him (this is not a stretch by any means) and he then uses Executive Orders to hammer into place things that will work towards establishing this ridiculous model, is what happens at that company not an integral piece of it?

Anyone who buys into this is fooling themselves if they think it can be workable at a level beyond someone who wants to throw his money into it in order to prop it up. This is the equivalent of Bernie Sanders with a printing press for creating currency.

I believe in paying people what they are worth and treating people with respect, but paying two people the same amount of money when one of them neither has to put forth the same effort to earn it, bear the same burden of responsibility, nor expend the same amount of time, energy, and capital to get qualified enough to get to a point of doing a job is not “fairness”. It is extremely disrespectful and unfair towards one of those two people.

In the twisted, socialistic world of “wage fairness”, a person responsible for quality control on pacemakers to be implanted in the chests of sick people would get paid the same pay as a assembly line worker who dropped out of high school to do drugs and live at his parent’s house. If the assembly line worker doesn’t put a bag of desiccant inside the box before it is taped up, does that carry the same assumed risk as the guy who is responsible for quality control?

Laud this guy for throwing away his own money to try to put his money where his mouth is. But anyone who praises the concept of what he is trying to achieve, can fairly have the term “Useful Idiot” applied to them.


11 posted on 11/01/2015 7:09:00 AM PST by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: rlmorel

Just an experiment here with the quotes and the bizarre character substitution:

It is fine that it is his own money or his family’s money this guy is throwing down that conceptual socialistic rathole.

Here is the problem: this guy is using his own money and the future of his company to advance socialistic concepts and the utterly moronic concept of “fairness” in wages. To anyone who thinks that “socialism is only government”, that is fine. But what of it when someone in government like Obama or virtually every person who is a member of his party uses this flawed “experiment in wage fairness” as “proof” that it is possible to run things this way, and references it to get legislation passed. Is it not part and parcel of that process?

If Bernie Sanders points to this farce as proof that his concepts “work” and convinces enough idiot voters to elect him (this is not a stretch by any means) and he then uses Executive Orders to hammer into place things that will work towards establishing this ridiculous model, is what happens at that company not an integral piece of it?

Anyone who buys into this is fooling themselves if they think it can be workable at a level beyond someone who wants to throw his money into it in order to prop it up. This is the equivalent of Bernie Sanders with a printing press for creating currency.

I believe in paying people what they are worth and treating people with respect, but paying two people the same amount of money when one of them neither has to put forth the same effort to earn it, bear the same burden of responsibility, nor expend the same amount of time, energy, and capital to get qualified enough to get to a point of doing a job is not “fairness”. It is extremely disrespectful and unfair towards one of those two people.

In the twisted, socialistic world of “wage fairness”, a person responsible for quality control on pacemakers to be implanted in the chests of sick people would get paid the same pay as a assembly line worker who dropped out of high school to do drugs and live at his parent’s house. If the assembly line worker doesn’t put a bag of desiccant inside the box before it is taped up, does that carry the same assumed risk as the guy who is responsible for quality control?

Laud this guy for throwing away his own money to try to put his money where his mouth is. But anyone who praises the concept of what he is trying to achieve, can fairly have the term “Useful Idiot” applied to them.


21 posted on 11/01/2015 7:14:07 AM PST by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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“paying two people the same amount of money when one of them neither has to put forth the same effort to earn it”

What does effort have to do with it?


23 posted on 11/01/2015 7:16:35 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: rlmorel
In the twisted, socialistic world of 'wage fairness', a person responsible for quality control on pacemakers to be implanted in the chests of sick people would get paid the same pay as a assembly line worker who dropped out of high school to do drugs and live at his parent's house. If the assembly line worker doesn't put a bag of desiccant inside the box before it is taped up, does that carry the same assumed risk as the guy who is responsible for quality control?

There was a time I worked at a medical manufactory. I was in a position, the employees entrance, that enabled me to see that the majority of employees were miserable upon arrival at work.

Thinking along the lines of you are what you eat, you reap what you sow and degrees of separation just might not be limited to acquaintances I began to consider the possibility that all those bad vibrations entering the buildings might be leaving the buildings with the heart related end products. So for the sake of people with clogging arteries everywhere I started smiling and offering pleasantries to just about everyone coming to work.

After a week or so there was a marked improvement in the employee's facial arrangement; smiles were showing up by the car load. As Christmas approached I was inundated with tamales and other traditional Christmas spirits I was more familiar with. Unexpected but sincerely appreciated.

I have no proof the changed attitude of the employees made the end product any better but for awhile I had a more positive influence on their attitudes, and I chose to believe, on the company productivity than most of the foremen in the joint.

Money and it's honest application for compensation of an employee's time and skill is a powerful and important part of sustaining a free society but in people's hearts a little sharing of humanity with each other is the energy that binds that society together.

My point being is Socialism, to it's core, denies the human quality. For all the socialist's high faLOOTing airs of concern for equality for their fellow man, woman, animal, mineral and watt expanded for comfort and the unfair distribution of dollars they blame for life's disparities it is important to remember that behind all their intent is an eventual criminal industry.

They should all be encouraged to depart from any society seeking a healthy and productive existence.

53 posted on 11/01/2015 9:05:48 AM PST by MurrietaMadman
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