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Lucky one' chosen to survive Roseburg massacre reveals how gunman delighted
Daily Mail ^ | 0 October 2015 | ALEXANDRA KLAUSNER

Posted on 10/10/2015 2:54:25 PM PDT by 100American

It was 2 Handguns and ammo in his backpack, also his wandering focus during the attack lends credence to a drug induced psychotic state..

One of the girls that was lying near the front of the class then said that she was sorry for whatever happened to him and for whatever she had done wrong. The shooter then said that he bets she was and shot her. At that point he was just firing on people who were just lying there and stopped when he heard a woman outside and shot out the window by the door. That is when he looked out the door and saw a man standing outside. The man asked him not to shoot him because it's his son's birthday.

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Finally it comes out and in the foreign press, I am used to this misinformation game...

God Bless...

1 posted on 10/10/2015 2:54:26 PM PDT by 100American
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To: 100American

Places where you should assume that a gunman wants to kill as many people as possible, rather than have some demands met and leave:

Schools.
Church, other place of worship.
Train, plane, bus.
Workplace, especially former workplace.
Theater.
Sporting event.
Mall.

That doesn’t mean, my friends in New Jersey, that someone carrying a gun in those places is a gunman. A gunman is shooting or threatening to do so.


2 posted on 10/10/2015 3:04:57 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: 100American
The girl who picked up the desk had the right idea if only she could have hurled it at the puke. Learn to use anything and everything as a weapon. Even if it serves to distract the psycho, it may buy enough time to get the drop on him.
3 posted on 10/10/2015 3:15:24 PM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: 100American

When it gets warm, some folks may decide it would be good to warm themselves by the fire.


4 posted on 10/10/2015 3:18:06 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: 100American
The first thing I could hear was him telling everybody to get onto the ground, I listened and figured that if I did so throughout I wouldn't be harmed.

This was Carson's point...people nowadays have been indoctrinated to be passive in the face of clear threats that they are almost inevitably destined to become victims.

5 posted on 10/10/2015 3:29:38 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: heartwood

But, but we’ve been assured by our “betters” that all we have to do in such a situation is say “I feel your pain” and sing Kumbaya, and all is well.


6 posted on 10/10/2015 3:37:45 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: 100American; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

Pinging both lists to what went on during the school shooting.


7 posted on 10/10/2015 3:39:03 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Timber Rattler

***people nowadays have been indoctrinated to be passive in the face of clear threats ***

Like the people on the planes on 9-11 were assured they would be alright and just set down like good little boys and girls.


8 posted on 10/10/2015 3:39:41 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: 100American

Not a gun expert but COULD this class of students have stormed him and saved some people? I am not sure if this (as in the French train shooting avert) is always possible.


9 posted on 10/10/2015 3:44:52 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: 100American

I find it incredible that these victims don’t attack the shooter.

Nothing to lose, your life to gain.

Crazy.


10 posted on 10/10/2015 3:45:46 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: Yaelle

“Not a gun expert but COULD this class of students have stormed him and saved some people? I am not sure if this (as in the French train shooting avert) is always possible”

Yes


11 posted on 10/10/2015 3:49:36 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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I ask you to take a look at Concealed Carry University.

I recommend the training that they offer.

I invite comments from you - whether you are a novice or a professional.

There's SO MUCH more to know than what to buy and how to shoot straight.

Thanks for taking the time.

12 posted on 10/10/2015 3:57:42 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: 100American

This doesn’t seem to match the accepted Chris Mintz narrative of charging the shooter.


13 posted on 10/10/2015 4:04:22 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Jim Noble

Throw anything toward the shooter to distract him. re, pencil, pen , change from pocket but then make your move to get at him. You may end up shot , wounded, maybe worse but it may help save some of the other people.


14 posted on 10/10/2015 4:10:11 PM PDT by depenzz ("it isn't a chance you take, its a choice you make")
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To: 100American

Satan worship does that to you. He admitted as such in his childish “manifesto”


15 posted on 10/10/2015 4:12:55 PM PDT by montag813 (Bring Back Tar and Feathers)
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To: Yaelle
Not a gun expert but COULD this class of students have stormed him and saved some people?

It was a creative writing class so they may have naturally lacked the inspiration and/or imagination.

16 posted on 10/10/2015 4:13:21 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 100American

Before shooting the first victim, the killer had them all get on the floor. Charging him would have required getting off the floor first, and likely getting shot while doing so. They weren’t given time to confer on mass action. Iirc the time before action changed to the killer and arriving LE was less than 10 min.


17 posted on 10/10/2015 4:41:28 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: Jim Noble
once they were all laying on the ground it was too late.

we have all been trained by watching countless movies of bank robberies ect to just lay on the ground and everything will be fine.

The only moment anyone had to act was immediately, which might have prompted accusations that they caused the shooter to go crazy and shoot people.

This was a no win situation.

18 posted on 10/10/2015 4:52:07 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Yaelle
Not a gun expert but COULD this class of students have stormed him and saved some people?

If you have an opening or the opportunity, the answer is YES.

It's a principle those in the defense/security business refer to as "attack the attacker."

19 posted on 10/10/2015 4:52:31 PM PDT by AAABEST (Got Traditional Catholicism? - Angelqueen.org)
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To: conservative cat

I am still trying to figure out how Chris broke both his legs.


20 posted on 10/10/2015 4:52:57 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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