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British nurse who contracted Ebola hospitalized again
Associated Press ^ | Oct 9, 2015 8:14 AM EDT

Posted on 10/09/2015 5:15:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: DannyTN

From another article I read they are saying they use to think hair loss and other physical events ‘after treatment’ were simply from having Ebola....now they’re saying they believe it’s “evidence” Ebola is ‘still’ hiding out in the body.


21 posted on 10/09/2015 1:36:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: exDemMom

...”Since the immune system cannot reach into those fluid-filled pockets, it cannot kill the virus there”....

So why not inject some of these areas....once you know where it’s raised it’s ugly head.


22 posted on 10/09/2015 1:38:57 PM PDT by caww
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To: exDemMom

Obvious question: can Ebola be sexually transmitted from a “cured” man to a woman?


23 posted on 10/09/2015 1:48:00 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Smokin' Joe
The text of the article says this is not a second, or relapsed, case of Ebola. I suspect editors added the scary stuff. We should ignore the Daily Mail as a reliable news source. Put it in the same category as the National Enquirer and the Sun (the latter is British).

"She is said to have developed an 'unusual late complication' as a result of the original Ebola infection and tests have revealed that the virus is still lingering in her body."

"Consultant in Public Health David Cromie said: 'This is not a new case of ebola and is a complication of her previous illness."


24 posted on 10/09/2015 2:50:09 PM PDT by Thud
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To: exDemMom
Check my No. 24, though my understanding is that Ebola can "hide out" in victims long after they have recovered, perhaps for as long as they live, and be transmissible to other people to some limited degree.

It may also be that victims can contract it again from their own bodies when their immmune systems become compromised due to aging or other factors. That does not seem to have happened to this particular British nurse.

There are a number of ultimately fatal infectious conditions which can do that. I have one which is fortunately not transmissible to others, and expect it to kill me eventually, assuming nothing else does first.

25 posted on 10/09/2015 3:06:48 PM PDT by Thud
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To: MD Expat in PA

I do not think it is harmful to get the shingles vaccine if you have not had chicken pox. I cannot find anything on the CDC website that says that people who have never had chicken pox should not receive shingles vaccine. I think that the difference between shingles vaccine and chickenpox vaccine is the dose—higher in the shingles vaccine because the immune system of older people is not as strong as that in younger people. Also, the immunity from the shingles vaccine only lasts about 5 years.

You can get tested for chicken pox immunity. I was tested recently for chicken pox, rubella, and measles immunity, and I am immune against all three. I had shingles about 4 years ago, and was vaccinated for rubella and measles in the 1980s. Anyway, the kind of blood test you are looking for is a titer test for immunity against chicken pox. They can do titers for the other diseases, to see if you need those vaccinations, as well.

If you have not ever had chicken pox, you will not get shingles. But you can still get chicken pox, which puts you at risk of shingles later on.


26 posted on 10/09/2015 6:58:03 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

I could not remember having chicken pox so when my husband got shingles I was concerned. He was miserable, he hurt and itched at the same time. A titer test told me that I indeed had chicken pox.

I got the shingles vaccine immediately.


27 posted on 10/09/2015 7:04:48 PM PDT by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: caww
So why not inject some of these areas....once you know where it’s raised it’s ugly head.

I'm not sure how feasible that would be. For one thing, the virus is not reproducing in those fluid pockets, it is just sitting there. So anti-virals meant to interrupt viral reproduction might not work. For another thing, it can't be that easy to inject the inside of the eye or some of the other fluid pockets in the body; I think some of them are somewhat inaccessible. And an eye injection...just ugh. I did read the case study of the doctor whose eyes were infected with Ebola virus... I will have to find it again to get the details, I think they treated with ophthalmic drugs.

28 posted on 10/09/2015 7:15:56 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Yaelle

I think the answer on that is “yes.” One of the last cases in Liberia was a patient whose boyfriend had had Ebola several months before. Since she had had no other contact with Ebola patients other than her boyfriend, the most likely source of infection was from him, through sexual contact.

Sadly, she died. And I bet her boyfriend feels terrible about it.


29 posted on 10/09/2015 7:18:16 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Thud
Check my No. 24, though my understanding is that Ebola can "hide out" in victims long after they have recovered, perhaps for as long as they live, and be transmissible to other people to some limited degree.

That raises some very interesting questions. I think that there would be value in conducting studies to ascertain the longevity of Ebola virus in "immune-blind" tissues. Unfortunately, Ebola is still a very rare disease, and human nature being what it is, I don't think that a lot of funding will be directed towards Ebola research (above what is already being spent). In reality--if a disease kills Americans, it gets funded--if it only kills foreigners, politicians aren't interested in funding it.

30 posted on 10/09/2015 7:28:48 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Ditter
I got the shingles vaccine immediately.

Good for you. You need to get that vaccine every 5 years, but it is worth it not to get shingles.

I'm too young for shingles vaccine, but I got shingles 4 years ago. Shingles can heal and still be painful. I had stabbing pains in the side of my neck for years after the rash disappeared.

31 posted on 10/09/2015 7:31:16 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

Thanks.


32 posted on 10/10/2015 12:41:39 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: exDemMom

“A mutation cannot drastically affect virus behavior. The virus cannot change the tissues it infects or its mode of transmission through a mutation. If a mutation affects virus behavior at all, it usually makes the virus unable to propagate.”

You have a source for that or at least some key words for a
search. I seem I have read something quite different when I was
reading an article about the bird flue a while back.


33 posted on 10/11/2015 4:15:39 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: exDemMom

Nevermind. I found the CDC report that pretty much says what you
are saying.
I’ll put it up there as being about as accurate as the
administrations, quarterly jobs report, unemployment figures,
global warming predictions, NOAA and the Obama himself.


34 posted on 10/11/2015 4:32:43 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Slambat
You have a source for that or at least some key words for a search. I seem I have read something quite different when I was reading an article about the bird flue a while back.

First of all, a "flue" is the opening in a chimney that lets smoke out. I think what you mean is "flu."

The influenza virus is a special case, because there are many influenza viruses, and they swap genes with each other. When they swap genes, they make new influenza viruses that never existed before, and sometimes the new viruses are more deadly than either of the original viruses.

Even in influenza, no amount of mutation or gene trading has made influenza change the way it infects people. Influenza is a respiratory virus, and infects people through the eyes and nose.

Nevermind. I found the CDC report that pretty much says what you are saying.
I’ll put it up there as being about as accurate as the administrations, quarterly jobs report, unemployment figures, global warming predictions, NOAA and the Obama himself.

I had no idea that the administration, Obama, economists, etc., were qualified as infectious disease experts.

In any case, my information comes from the scientists who actually do the research. You can look for their research yourself at www.pubmed.org. That is the database that catalogs medical research, and it is what researchers use to share their findings with each other.

35 posted on 10/11/2015 6:49:59 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

“First of all, a “flue” is the opening in a chimney that lets smoke out. I think what you mean is “flu.”

So?

“I had no idea that the administration, Obama, economists, etc., were qualified as infectious disease experts.”

You’d be surprised at how politicized the CDC is nowadays
along with every other government agency.

“You can look for their research yourself at www.pubmed.org.”

Thank you.


36 posted on 10/12/2015 5:18:16 PM PDT by Slambat
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