Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

British nurse who contracted Ebola hospitalized again
Associated Press ^ | Oct 9, 2015 8:14 AM EDT

Posted on 10/09/2015 5:15:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai

London’s Royal Free Hospital says a nurse who recovered from Ebola last year has been hospitalized again and is being treated for an unusual late complication. Her condition is described as serious.

A military aircraft flew Pauline Cafferkey from her home in Scotland to London early Friday. The hospital said she was being treated in its isolation unit. …

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: ebola; paulinecafferky; scotland; scotlandyet; unitedkingdom
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last

1 posted on 10/09/2015 5:15:57 AM PDT by Olog-hai
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

28 days later.


2 posted on 10/09/2015 5:20:27 AM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Just my opinion and only worth what you paid for it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe

Ping.


3 posted on 10/09/2015 5:20:28 AM PDT by Black Agnes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

“hospitalized again and is being treated for an unusual late complication.”

If she dies then London’s Royal Free Hospital has been
successful in crating a mutated version of Ebola that may
be untreatable.


4 posted on 10/09/2015 5:22:01 AM PDT by Slambat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Slambat
Still, he said, Cafferkey's case appeared unusual, noting the stubborn persistence of Ebola virus in her body. In a similar case detected in an American doctor, Ebola was found in his eyes months after he recovered.

Or maybe we created the mutation...

5 posted on 10/09/2015 5:30:55 AM PDT by EBH (Watch Damascus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: JJ_Folderol

And meanwhile, how many people was she in contact with throughout that time?


6 posted on 10/09/2015 5:53:41 AM PDT by headstamp 2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

I am wondering if Ebola is similar to chickenpox in that the virus never really goes away 100%. If it lingers and the person is still at risk for a reoccurring infection, then Ebola is a lot more dangerous than initially thought. It may require mass vaccinations to provide any long term society resistance.


7 posted on 10/09/2015 6:17:38 AM PDT by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JJ_Folderol
That movie made me so anxious. I'm pretty tired of the zombie paradigm, so I was glad to see something fresh, in that the "zombies" weren't really zombies.

It would be scary if something like Ebola did mutate to spread rapidly, turning everyone into bloodthirsty Democrats.

8 posted on 10/09/2015 8:14:31 AM PDT by catbertz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

That doesn’t sound good. Sounds like Ebola has resurfaced after being dormant a year. But they aren’t saying where in her body it resurfaced.


9 posted on 10/09/2015 9:04:12 AM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Slambat

Why would you say this is mutated and not simply virus behavior that we were unaware of with the exception of the guy with the late eye infection?


10 posted on 10/09/2015 9:05:51 AM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: DannyTN

“Why would you say this is mutated”

Because that’s what viruses do.

“virus behavior that we were unaware of”

Unknown behavior or mutation? Well the mutation can easily
be proven but may be suppressed to cover up for incompetence
and unknown behavior would make a good excuse. But, you
do have a point and you could be right.


11 posted on 10/09/2015 10:01:10 AM PDT by Slambat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping....


12 posted on 10/09/2015 10:20:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe
A link to this thread has been posted on The Ebola Surveillance Thread.
13 posted on 10/09/2015 10:24:20 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: DannyTN
The virus is known to linger in the testicles for longer than the previously assumed 90 days. Frankly, I don't think the virus is as fully eliminated as has been assumed.

Someone mentioned chicken pox, but herpes comes to mind as well, with active and dormant phases. If that is the case, survival does not equal being cured.

14 posted on 10/09/2015 10:29:52 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe

I’m not sure being cured equals survival.


15 posted on 10/09/2015 10:36:55 AM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

For a long time, there a worry that the virus was popping up again in survivors. For instance, there was an article recently that it will remain viable in the testes and semen.

Part of me thinks that Ebola is much more common than we think.


16 posted on 10/09/2015 11:15:49 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: taxcontrol
I am wondering if Ebola is similar to chickenpox in that the virus never really goes away 100%.

For biological reasons, Ebola cannot "hide" in the body the way chickenpox does. Chickenpox is a DNA virus, and it can either hide by becoming part of a chromosome or by disguising itself as a chromosome. Ebola cannot do that since it is an RNA virus.

Ebola virus survives in areas of the body that the immune system cannot reach--for instance, in the eye fluid, in breast milk and seminal fluid (where they are stored in glands). Since the immune system cannot reach into those fluid-filled pockets, it cannot kill the virus there. As for the virus, those biological fluids preserve it for prolonged periods since they act as buffers.

17 posted on 10/09/2015 11:43:04 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Slambat

A mutation cannot drastically affect virus behavior. The virus cannot change the tissues it infects or its mode of transmission through a mutation. If a mutation affects virus behavior at all, it usually makes the virus unable to propagate. The most important aspect of mutation is that it gives researchers a tool to use to track virus spread, since they look at how the mutation pattern changes across time and distance and can use that information to track the virus back to its origins. They can tell, for instance, if a new Ebola case is related to the current outbreak, or if it is a new outbreak, by looking at the mutations.

I am wondering if the virus hid for this long in her eyes or other fluid compartment in her body, or if she is suffering a complication related to tissue damage caused by the disease, which has only surfaced now although the disease is long gone.


18 posted on 10/09/2015 12:04:27 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Good. Grief. :(

Thanks for posting.


19 posted on 10/09/2015 12:16:20 PM PDT by EternalHope (Something wicked this way comes. Be ready.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: exDemMom
For biological reasons, Ebola cannot "hide" in the body the way chickenpox does. Chickenpox is a DNA virus, and it can either hide by becoming part of a chromosome or by disguising itself as a chromosome. Ebola cannot do that since it is an RNA virus.

Thanks for your explanations on how viruses work and the differences between an RNA and DNA virus.

A bit off topic but since you mentioned the Chicken Pox virus, perhaps you “might” know the answer to my question as several pharmacists and nurses and even my own primary care doctor and my numerous internet searches hasn’t been able to answer for me.

I am in my mid 50’s and at not quite to the age where a Shingles vaccine is recommended (at 60+) but am getting close. But having a friend who his my same age and who is going through the severe pain and complications, disability of getting Shingles, I don’t want to go through that if I can avoid it.

But here’s the thing. I don’t really know if I ever had Chicken Pox as a kid or not. My older brother claims I had it as a toddler but I don’t exactly trust his memory and both my parents are now deceased and I don’t have any of my childhood medical records. I do remember that I contracted measles in the 3rd grade but I don’t remember anything about having or my parents ever talking about me ever having Chicken Pox. I do recall in the mid 90’s being exposed to the Chicken Pox virus as one of my great nieces got sick with it and I was around her just before and just after she got sick but I didn’t catch it from her but I don’t know if that means I’m immune because I had it previously or that I was just lucky not to catch it.

So my question is; can I get or is it even safe for me to get a Shingles vaccine if I’ve never had Chicken Pox? Is there any harm in getting a Shingles vaccine if I’ve never had Chicken Pox?

Can a simple blood test determine if I ever had or I carry the Chicken Pox virus? And if a blood test can determine if I ever had Chicken Pox, what sort of blood test should I ask my doctor for? And should I even bother getting a blood test before getting a Shingles vaccine or should I just go ahead and get one anyway?

20 posted on 10/09/2015 1:04:53 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson