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WE ASKED A CULTURAL HISTORIAN: ARE APPLE STORES THE NEW TEMPLES?
Atlas Obscura ^ | 25 SEP 2015 | BY SARAH LASKOW

Posted on 09/29/2015 8:12:12 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker

Sword, since you pinged me.... he’s just trolling you as usual, bog standard issue blather. I’d suggest you do something more productive and fun. :-)


21 posted on 09/30/2015 12:20:52 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

I find it amusing that he made himself look so stupid in his reply. . . market trends SNORT!. LOL!


22 posted on 09/30/2015 12:27:52 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

>>Overall, NAND performance is impressive, especially in sequential cases.<<

So it might be faster in doing in the current generation what the prior Android generation could do.

You aren’t understanding what I am saying, which is exactly what a cultist does.

Apple is now a trailing “me too” platform. It isn’t originating anything, it is copying what others (Android) did and then maybe making it faster.

But to the point of the article — you don’t see people lining up at midnight to get the latest Android phone which is a slightly better version of other phones.

Only cultists do that.

Just like having a tantrum when it is pointed out that all the Apple products are trailing technology, copying what is already on the market. I 100% guarantee no one buys an iPhone because it is faster (an arguable fact that) — they buy it because they drank the fanboy kool-aid.


23 posted on 09/30/2015 3:38:25 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The 17th Amendment was the beginning of the end. The end was the 19th ;) Thank God for the 21st!)
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To: Swordmaker

The answer is: yes.


24 posted on 09/30/2015 3:42:45 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Swordmaker

“Do you really want to criticize Apple for their prices in light of that information?”

I don’t have an iphone because people assume you are gay if you have one. Especially with their new fabulous color schemes.


25 posted on 09/30/2015 3:56:11 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Swordmaker
I don't think this is absurd. This is very good marketing. Apple products are good, but over-priced and they have a fanatical following -- why? I don't find them especially innovative - they ARE, but not some super innovations. What they are great at is marketing and sales. You buy an apple product and you stick with them.

A very good company to emulate for marketing and sales

26 posted on 09/30/2015 4:43:50 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

Don’t forget the exceptionally great service.

When I spilled a drink on my IMac keyboard causing it to depart to the great beyond, I went to the Apple Store.

The greeter asked me why I was there.

I said seven words.

He went and got a new keyboard and handed it to me.

Shock and Awe.

I was in and out of the store in under five minutes.

And I didn’t have to buy a new keyboard as I was expecting to.


27 posted on 09/30/2015 8:36:24 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Cronos; Swordmaker
> Apple products are good, but over-priced and they have a fanatical following

In a reasonably free marketplace, "over-priced" products do not sell well, because there are similar products at lower cost available. Apple products sell well because they are generally very high quality and are priced properly for the market. That's just common sense. If they really were "over-priced" Apple would be out of business.

Lower priced Androids sell more quantity, true, but only a small fraction of the market's profit goes to Android manufacturers; Apple enjoys a huge lead in profit. Why? Because the Apple products suit their customers' needs better than the lower-priced competition. Hundreds of millions of customers buying Apple's iDevices for more than a decade cannot all be deluded idiots. Apple is providing products that people want at a price they're willing to pay.

Incidentally, that's capitalism, something we on FR are supposed to recognize as a Good Thing.

It's my observation that only a small fraction of Apple customers are "fanatical". Most are simply satisfied (or else they'd be buying Androids, and indeed some do), and "satisfied" is not "fanatical".

For instance, I have a Fujitsu laptop computer that is exactly what I need in a Windows laptop. It was more expensive than a Dell or HP or Asus, but it exactly suits my needs and I'm willing to pay for that quality. I'm "satisfied". Does that make me a "Fujitsu fanatic" because I spent more on my laptop than I would have on a Dell that didn't suit my needs as well? Am I a "Fujitsu fanatic" because I will happily buy my next laptop from Fujitsu if they, again, provide a product that best suits my needs at that time?

28 posted on 09/30/2015 9:08:09 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: freedumb2003
So it might be faster in doing in the current generation what the prior Android generation could do.

The Apple iPhone6 and 6S were BOTH, the last two generations, were faster than anything prior Android generations could produce. Your "catch up" meme is simply wrong. . . the Android's are the true followers.

Just because the geeks at Samsung, LG or all the other Android phone manufacturers may toss in a useless Blood Oximeter or Atmospheric Hygrometer sensor to their spec list which Apple chooses to exclude does not make them more advanced, it makes them desperate to have a spec list with more items on it.

But to the point of the article — you don’t see people lining up at midnight to get the latest Android phone which is a slightly better version of other phones.

Then you have no proof your Android phones are "slightly better" versions of other phones.

Google just released their latest and greatest phones yesterday. . . and I just don't see anything about them that is "slightly better" than anything.

Just like having a tantrum when it is pointed out that all the Apple products are trailing technology, copying what is already on the market. I 100% guarantee no one buys an iPhone because it is faster (an arguable fact that) — they buy it because they drank the fanboy kool-aid.

Except your claims are totally wrong. . . and you don't even recognize you've been hoist on your own petard. Your claim they are more expensive. WRONG. And that Apple is playing "catch up" is also WRONG. . . you've offered no evidence at all except your opinion. I've shown my evidence. . . which YOU mischaracterized as evidence of MARKET TRENDS. Still ROTFLMAO! You are a clown.

29 posted on 09/30/2015 12:03:09 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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I don’t have an iphone because people assume you are gay if you have one. Especially with their new fabulous color schemes.

How do explain that the population of LBGT's in the world is under 3% but that Apple has sold 1.2 BILLION iOS devices? Your logic is flawed.

So offering phones in Black, Space gray, white and rose gold is "gay?" Who knew. Millions of very heterosexual men and women are going to be surprised. Do you know of other color schemes for Apple iPhones I don't?

30 posted on 09/30/2015 12:21:06 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Your “evidence” shows nothing other than fan boy response.

Your data are as one-dimensional as you.

Your assertions about Apple somehow leading are just that, assertions. Your data merely say that you fanboys line up whenever Apple says “new!”

Nothing other than your bloviating has proved that your devices are anything better than trailing technology (faster, even if true, <> better functionality). They are just assertions. There is not a single significant meaningful iPhone function that has not already been previously deployed on Android (and for many of them, multiple versions).

And my thesis (which you tried to bury): Android (Galaxy, LG, etc.) users are mature enough to wait for the new features when the devices become commonly available. Only children answer the “APPLE NEW!!!” bell clang and line up days early. And all that for trailing tech.

Sad, fanboys. Sad.


31 posted on 09/30/2015 2:50:00 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The 17th Amendment was the beginning of the end. The end was the 19th ;) Thank God for the 21st!)
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To: Swordmaker

I think you doth protest too much “swordmaker”....


32 posted on 09/30/2015 4:37:04 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: freedumb2003
Nothing other than your bloviating has proved that your devices are anything better than trailing technology (faster, even if true, <> better functionality). They are just assertions. There is not a single significant meaningful iPhone function that has not already been previously deployed on Android (and for many of them, multiple versions).

It is obvious you did not bother to read the reviews at Anandtech or other tech sites or bother to pay attention to the comparison tests of the bench marks. . . or you'd know my evidence is NOT just my unsupported "assertions" as you claim but actual fact. You, on the other hand, don't have any evidence on which to back your bloviating or your posturing.

33 posted on 09/30/2015 4:44:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Send in the clowns, the clones, mindless urban Konformists and the AppleBots.


34 posted on 09/30/2015 4:58:48 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: RFEngineer
I think you doth protest too much “swordmaker”....

And I think you ducked answering. Worried about someone doubting your your masculinity?

35 posted on 09/30/2015 5:15:01 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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“Worried about someone doubting your your masculinity?”

Yes, I’m deathly afraid of that. That’s why I don’t have a gay iPhone, I don’t want to be one of the millions of sexually ambiguous men running round with their iPhones - like the new iPhone 6s with the innovative “limp wrist” mode.


36 posted on 09/30/2015 5:30:38 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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>>It is obvious you did not bother to read the reviews at Anandtech or other tech sites or bother to pay attention to the comparison tests of the bench marks<<

You don’t know the difference between benchmarks and functionality. Even your own references just gauge speed. Great, it is a little faster until the next gen of the next phone. I note it does not evaluate the Galaxy 6+ series.

You seem to be deaf. The FUNCTIONS of the iPhone are one offs of the Android applications.

Lagging technology. A little faster but a little less useful than the Android systems. Then the next gen of Android will be faster than the Apple — and so on and so on.

But the usefulness of the iPhones just mimics the already deployed usefulness of Android-based phones.

Speed tests? That is all you have?

I note you AGAIN ignore my thesis — that only apple fanboys line up at midnight to overpay for lagging technology since it is a religion to you. NEW!! APPLE!!!

Adults who have phones from other sources just wait and order them with no fanfare. It is what grownups do.

The OPs thesis is intact — Apple Stores are temples for the brainwashed fanboys.


37 posted on 09/30/2015 5:53:21 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The 17th Amendment was the beginning of the end. The end was the 19th ;) Thank God for the 21st!)
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To: freedumb2003

Do you consider the Roman Catholic Church a cult?

Any organisation who earns half the potential audience, that being somewhere around half a billion, isn’t a cult.

The real concern is the few who feel compelled to devote their time to stalking and harassing supporters. They’re usually psychos. Like you.


38 posted on 09/30/2015 6:10:34 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: Swordmaker

When Carousel Mall in Syracuse N.Y. opened, some reporter likewise asked a professor of theology if it was akin to a cathedral. Of course, the prof agreed, and in great detail (”a temple of consumption”).


39 posted on 09/30/2015 6:13:08 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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>>Do you consider the Roman Catholic Church a cult?<<

Congratulations for the greatest non sequitur EVER on FR.

>>The real concern is the few who feel compelled to devote their time to stalking and harassing supporters. They’re usually psychos. Like you.<<

The OP’s thesis is that Apple fanboys are uniquely nuts. I agree and my analyses have yet to be rebutted by any argumentation.

But as a source of amusement, you fan boys can’t be beaten.


40 posted on 09/30/2015 6:13:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The 17th Amendment was the beginning of the end. The end was the 19th ;) Thank God for the 21st!)
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