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Complex Car Software Becomes the Weak Spot Under the Hood
NY Times ^ | 26 Sept 2015 | DAVID GELLES, HIROKO TABUCHI

Posted on 09/26/2015 5:23:50 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

“If you look at all the code in this car,” Dr. Patel said, “it’s easily as much as a smartphone if not more.”

New high-end cars are among the most sophisticated machines on the planet, containing 100 million or more lines of code. Compare that with about 60 million lines of code in all of Facebook or 50 million in the Large Hadron Collider.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Hobbies; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: blackbox; car; software; wokeprogrammers
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Now big brother wants 'open source' for the embedded logic of your car.

Why not give one billion Chinese hackers a head start? THat said, I'm typing this on a Linux workstation; anybody, anywhere can have the source code.

1 posted on 09/26/2015 5:23:50 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

LOL. this is why I distrust computerized slot machines.
I figure the government is smart enough to detect tampering with a mechanical machine. I have zero confidence they can detect tampering with a complex computerized system.


2 posted on 09/26/2015 5:29:12 AM PDT by Kozak (Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve it good and hard)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“I’m sorry. I can’t do that” as you give directions to go somewhere, the vehicle speeds up with car doors being locked down...

“At 6:32 am on September 25, 2015 you were observed posting anti-Islamic messages on www.freerepublic which is only one of 49 others dentified this year. Termination mode activated”.


3 posted on 09/26/2015 5:31:00 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001
"We know you are located in the Mountain Time Zone of the United States of America. Islamic freedom fighters are vectored to your position. Inshallah!"

/s

4 posted on 09/26/2015 5:39:31 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
" automakers say they know of no malicious hacking incidents so far"

That says it all. Wake me when a REAL incident occurs, not some contrived media event.

5 posted on 09/26/2015 5:40:22 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: Thumper1960

Who’da thought we’d be living in times as crazy as this. I hope we get a special reserved, “I survived Obama” and “Christian Freedom Fighter against the Anti-Christ” patch on our robes when we go to heaven...: ^ )


6 posted on 09/26/2015 5:43:08 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Linux creator explains why a truly secure computing platform will never exist

http://bgr.com/2015/09/25/linus-torvalds-quotes-interview-linux-security/


7 posted on 09/26/2015 5:49:06 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: norwaypinesavage

“” automakers say they know of no malicious hacking incidents so far”

That says it all. Wake me when a REAL incident occurs, not some contrived media event.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

And how much confidence do you have that if there WERE a real incident, that we would be told that it was?


8 posted on 09/26/2015 5:50:08 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Kozak
LOL. this is why I distrust computerized slot machines.

The guy with the 'dentist drill' finger and his pal with a fine wire finger?

Out of work with the computerized slots!

THe little guy,and the small businessmen are screwed, again!

9 posted on 09/26/2015 5:50:59 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: jsanders2001
Termination mode activated

Please define 'termination'?

10 posted on 09/26/2015 5:52:36 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: Kozak
I have zero confidence they can detect tampering with a complex computerized system.

I have 30+ years in the software industry. I've worked on/in/around everything from 8 bit microcontrollers to IBM big iron. Given a system as complex as cars have become ... yeah, it would be all too easy to hide significant chunks of code in there. I have zero confidence some fed flunky or lowest bidder contractor could effectively ensure anything about them.

11 posted on 09/26/2015 5:59:51 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
> Termination mode activated Please define 'termination'?

"Michael Hastings" termination mode.

12 posted on 09/26/2015 6:02:50 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kartographer

“Linux is just an enabler – core infrastructure,” he said. “It’s a solid base, but like all good, solid bases, it really is something that should be almost entirely hidden and out of peoples’ minds.”

Nice find!
Thanx


13 posted on 09/26/2015 6:05:30 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: jsanders2001

“I’m sorry I can’t do that.” Open the pod bay doors Hal.


14 posted on 09/26/2015 6:05:53 AM PDT by freefdny
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To: ThunderSleeps
I have zero confidence some fed flunky or lowest bidder contractor could effectively ensure anything about them.

The 0bamacare websites and the underlying software, show just how good a government agency can oversee a project.

Not low bidders,first year costs exceeded total costs for the top 10 US sites!

15 posted on 09/26/2015 6:11:19 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

100 million lines of code for cars may just be sloppy programming.


16 posted on 09/26/2015 6:12:23 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

Elegant, timely,cheap.
Pick two.

The shareholders would like to see a return and production is waiting.

Now get to work!!!


17 posted on 09/26/2015 6:17:55 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: jsanders2001
Michael Hastings" termination mode.

That can hurt!

18 posted on 09/26/2015 6:19:06 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
"The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."
--Montgomery "Scotty" Scott
19 posted on 09/26/2015 6:44:44 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: GBA

A keeper quote!

Star Trek seems to have had a monopoly on the best writers.


20 posted on 09/26/2015 6:58:09 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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