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“Fortress” – a startling leap
9/15/15

Posted on 09/15/2015 2:34:08 PM PDT by pabianice

We recently subscribed to Netflix and Amazon Prime, gaining access to hundreds or even thousands of movies and shows. I was surfing last night and cam across a small movie called “Fortress.” It is the familiar story of the World War B-17 bomber crew of mostly kids who fly harrowing missions over Italy in 1943. The acting is surprisingly good but the plot is old hat.

What is remarkable is that the only things that were actually filmed are things that could fit onto a sound stage – the actors, a B-17 fuselage, and small props. Everything else is generated by CGI, and what a leap it has made. The airplanes – hundreds of them, B-17s, Me-109s, P-40s – the battles, the explosions, the aerial view of the camp, even the trajectory and correct range of the machine gun bullets and the motions of aircraft in flight – even a pilot’s exploding head -- it all looks absolutely real.

A real eye-opener in film technology and movie possibilities.


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1 posted on 09/15/2015 2:34:08 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
a pilot’s exploding head

Oh, my goodness.

2 posted on 09/15/2015 2:36:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Wait til you see it in 3D!


3 posted on 09/15/2015 2:40:25 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: BenLurkin

Yeah, probably not the detail needed to attract you to the movie.


4 posted on 09/15/2015 2:42:33 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: BenLurkin
a pilot’s exploding head
Oh, my goodness.

The Private Ryan effect..... Since that film (excellent BTW) it makes Sam Pekinpah look like a kiddy garten teacher. Realism is ok as long as it is not gratuitous.

I do find even the best CGI is flawed, and the onus is you to suspend reality...but it is much better than a decade ago.

5 posted on 09/15/2015 2:45:02 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: pabianice

Sounds worth checking out!


6 posted on 09/15/2015 2:45:33 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Teddy Roosevelt 2016.)
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To: Boogieman

I love 3D

Especially in IMAX

I saw “Evira’ and some nonsense movie she was in at IMAX in 3D

Let me tell you I never looked at Elvira the same way again....I dont remember the movie, but I absolutely will never forget her in 3D


7 posted on 09/15/2015 2:48:22 PM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: Mr. K

“You’ll put your eye out with that thing.”


8 posted on 09/15/2015 2:50:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Son and I were watching an old action movie - I was entertained but he said the stunts weren't up to today's standards.

I pointed out that this was before CGI - someone had to actually jump the car over the bridge IN REALITY (even if it was a stunt man, not the actual actor).

Changed his attitude...

9 posted on 09/15/2015 2:50:53 PM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: BenLurkin

Still would love to do this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=7&v=1rkfBZgPnQI


10 posted on 09/15/2015 2:54:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Vaquero

Private Ryan . . . Wow! Saw it in a high definition theater. First ten minutes I wanted to crawl under my seat to avoid the bullets.
Oldplayer


11 posted on 09/15/2015 2:57:23 PM PDT by oldplayer
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To: pabianice

If you have Netflick.. I would suggest you watch the original 1948 version of “12 o’clock high”


12 posted on 09/15/2015 3:10:35 PM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans Patriots are in rebellion... teach him why)
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I pointed out that this was before CGI - someone had to actually jump the car over the bridge IN REALITY

And Millennials winder why we geezers laugh at them.

13 posted on 09/15/2015 3:13:57 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: pabianice

Heard about 25 years ago that the US Air Force at that time had 300 MILLION feet of film in their video archives. I thought that with some decent editors that recordings could be produced and sold to the public. Increased knowledge and some income for the Air Force could be generated.

Never has happened of course.


14 posted on 09/15/2015 3:18:28 PM PDT by Rockpile
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Thanks for the tip..happily, my libray has it.just reserved it..

This CGI stuff doesn’t look real to me..it lacks authenticity..the old films..using actual combat footage integrated into the movie..are far better..”Twelve O’Clock High” “The War Lover”...”The Battle of Britain”..when the last movie was being filmed, the production company had the 6th largest air force in the world at the time..


15 posted on 09/15/2015 3:19:34 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: BenLurkin; Mr. K
“You’ll put her eye out with that thing.”

Fixed it...

16 posted on 09/15/2015 3:21:36 PM PDT by W. (Stay out da Bushes!--Barbara Bush, paraphrased)
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To: pabianice

Got *my* attention. My Dad flew as a gunner on dozens of those B-17 missions over Italy.

I’ll add it to my Netflix queue.

Thx


17 posted on 09/15/2015 3:21:56 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: doorgunner69

And Millennials winder why we geezers laugh at them.

As a pre greezer sometime I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch.....


18 posted on 09/15/2015 3:22:00 PM PDT by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: pabianice

We are not far from watching whatever the media want you to think happen right on your teevee, whether it did or not (If we aren’t there already).


19 posted on 09/15/2015 3:27:02 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Rockpile

Several years back, I found 16 DVD’s put out by a company named Timeless Media Group. They’re all chock-full of WW2 combat footage. It was quite the Big Lots find, they were $2 each, I snagged ‘em all.


20 posted on 09/15/2015 3:27:46 PM PDT by W. (Stay out da Bushes!--Barbara Bush, paraphrased)
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