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These new FCC regulations make it effectively impossible for open source folks to use commercial hardware for their wifi. And building your own wifi hardware is non-trivial.

This is basically a somewhat well-intentioned but ultimately very misguided way of shutting down open source wireless.

1 posted on 09/06/2015 3:39:01 PM PDT by dayglored
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To: ShadowAce; Swordmaker; ThunderSleeps

Possible interest for your ping lists...


2 posted on 09/06/2015 3:39:56 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; Alas Babylon!; amigatec; ...
Heavy hand of the FCC smacks down open source router firmware ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

3 posted on 09/06/2015 3:40:54 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

The FCC intends to make the internet much more expensive to use. Look for users to be “certified” eventually.


4 posted on 09/06/2015 3:44:17 PM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: dayglored
Running DD-WRT on my E3000 right now.

I don't believe it's well-intentioned. It's meant to make sure the feral government has a back-door to EVERYTHING.

5 posted on 09/06/2015 3:46:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Is the Pope Catholic?)
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To: dayglored

The lobbyists win again.

Those manufacturers want to dominate your machine and the marketplace, by removing your ability to tinker with it...


6 posted on 09/06/2015 3:55:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: dayglored

Well this SUX!


7 posted on 09/06/2015 3:56:23 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: dayglored

Other way round...every router or cable modem is built on open source code, much of it GNU. The EFF is a mess, but I don’t see good intentions here.


9 posted on 09/06/2015 3:56:38 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: dayglored

Government is afraid they won’t be able to snoop.


11 posted on 09/06/2015 3:57:38 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dayglored

Computer operating systems are not the keys to the internet castle: router software is.


14 posted on 09/06/2015 4:04:44 PM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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19 posted on 09/06/2015 4:45:10 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: dayglored

I’ve never really seen the necessity to change my router firmware, but if the DC goobers think they have the authority to tell me I can’t do what I will with hardware I purchased, then I feel obligated to do so.


24 posted on 09/06/2015 6:31:23 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!Just read)
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To: dayglored

I wonder how this will impact the use of SDR (software defined radio) gear.

It has become simple and cheap to dabble in radio using inexpensive SDR equipment. The cheapest units are receive only and don’t operate above 2Ghz but any hardware hacker worth his salt can whip up a transceiver solution for 2.5Ghz

There are SDR transceivers contained inside single SM chips.... used by various entities. :-)

Check out the SDR USB rx dongles on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=sdr%20usb&clk_rvr_id=894226844698&mfe=search


25 posted on 09/06/2015 7:11:16 PM PDT by Bobalu (See my freep page for political images.)
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To: dayglored

The Chinese tried this with WAPI in 2004. It required major coordination with large corporations and USTR to push back on it. They blinked.

Now our “betters” want to do it here???


26 posted on 09/06/2015 7:20:31 PM PDT by LoneStar42 (Lurker since '94. Now monthly donor. Do not feed trolls. It's a waste of brain cells.)
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To: dayglored

Get together a cheap ARM processor, a cheap SDR chip and perhaps a cheap FPGA along with several talented geeks and soon you would have an open-source router that would also operate as a useful SDR transceiver for 25Mhz - 3Ghz.

And if it was open-hardware as well then cheap Chinese clones would soon appear on ebay :-)

I know a few rf engineers that could do this...there probably are a few here among us on FR. I’m mostly software.. with a touch of hardware dabbler thrown in.

This has all become pretty routine and thus cheap. The el cheapo Ham Radio handie-talkies like the Baofeng are built upon a single SDR transceiver chip that costs less than a dollar...that chip can operate from the AM radio band to 1.4Ghz+ it can be coaxed to become many things..i.e. a simple GPS jammer can be built.


27 posted on 09/06/2015 7:36:56 PM PDT by Bobalu (See my freep page for political images.)
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To: dayglored
There goes my HSMM-MESH
28 posted on 09/06/2015 8:32:52 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: dayglored
These new FCC regulations make it effectively impossible for open source folks to use commercialretail hardware for their wifi.

Fixed it for you. The open source community is primarily interested in retail routers and switches. I don't know of any open source community who, for instance, hacks commercial Cisco gear such as Catalyst switches.

While this is yet another infringement on our freedoms by an overbearing government agency, it doesn't signal the death of these efforts. As evidenced by everyday news, when someone or something tries to close a door, there are legions of techies who start pounding on that door to find a way in. The open source community won't die.

29 posted on 09/07/2015 5:44:59 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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