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When Black Music was Conservative [And What Happened Since]
Townhall ^ | 08/18/2015 | Howard Husock

Posted on 08/18/2015 9:56:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

It all went to crap after 1987 when great funk groups and the last of the Motown greats, who sang with class and real heart, got swept aside for NWA, Public Enemy, Salt n’ Peppa, and other groups that decided to go the route of overplaying the sex and black nationalism angle. Will Smith, Kid and Play, and MC Hammer was the last gasp before it all turned to full-on gangsta rap.

The jump between Billy Ocean to Eazy-E was only months, but might as well been light years. Black artists have never even tried to get back to the good stuff outside of Bruno Mars.


21 posted on 08/18/2015 10:36:51 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik
It all went to crap after 1987 when great funk groups and the last of the Motown greats, who sang with class and real heart, got swept aside...

Not just Motown but music in general. I'd say it all peaked in 1985 - 1987 and then the quality plummeted.

Remember the flap over 2 Live Crew in 1989?

22 posted on 08/18/2015 10:58:13 AM PDT by Spirochete (GOP: Give Obama Power)
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To: SeekAndFind

REvrunt Louise Farraklown ...has.. of course blamed this on the white man!!

And so, my brothers and my sisters, this is a sign to you. We’ve got to clean up our act. Be careful. Because the enemy is setting traps for you.

http://tonygrands.com/2015/07/16/tgdc-news-minister-louis-farrakh-blames-himself-for-wave-of-rapper-arrests/

the white man is making the rapper use foul language...and inspire murder and mayhem...

yep THATS IT alright


23 posted on 08/18/2015 11:03:30 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: BenLurkin

OK, think about that song.

Love child, always second best, Love child, different from the rest.

I think you made the authors point. It didn’t really celebrate single parenthood as much as lament it.


24 posted on 08/18/2015 11:37:55 AM PDT by cyclotic
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
"but the message was still there."

The message goes at least back to the thirties. Cole Porter implied sex in a number of his songs.

So it was sort of amusing to see many mainstream critics attack rock and roll for suggestive lyrics when the so-called great songwriters like Porter were doing it decades before rock.

25 posted on 08/18/2015 11:42:21 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: SeekAndFind
Great post, S&A. And all these great American songs coming out of Motown in the 60s and the Philadelphia sound of the 1970s were in addition to the truly classy, classic, intellectual, sophisticated music that is jazz, in that same period of the latter 1950s through the 1960s:

Miles Davis
John Coltrane
Charles Mingus
Herbie Hancock
Cannonball Adderly
Wayne Shorter
Tony Williams
Joe Sample
Eric Dolphy
Tommy Flannagan
Freddie Hubbard
Don Pullen
Thad, Hank, and Elvin Jones
Wes Montgomery
etaletaletaletaletal
26 posted on 08/18/2015 11:42:42 AM PDT by jobim
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To: KGeorge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu9QH71YKQw


27 posted on 08/18/2015 11:46:41 AM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: jobim

I’d add Dobie Gray to that list.


28 posted on 08/18/2015 11:51:09 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh9KDzNkpSI


29 posted on 08/18/2015 11:56:48 AM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: Osage Orange

That. Was. WONDERFUL!!! And you are a sweetheart! (I’ve missed it even more than I thought I had) I know you remember the days when there was always a tune on people’s lips as they went about there day. I love the old standbys (sooo many great songs) but it’s like a new outfit. It’s so nice to have a new one at least once in a while.

You made my day, Osage! Thank you.


30 posted on 08/18/2015 12:01:13 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: cyclotic

Good point


31 posted on 08/18/2015 12:11:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

To be fair, there’s some pretty negative “white” popular music too.


32 posted on 08/18/2015 12:12:41 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: VanDeKoik

RE: Black artists have never even tried to get back to the good stuff outside of Bruno Mars.

I don’t think Bruno Mars is of black decent.

His Mother is Filipina, and his father is part Puerto Rican and part Jewish.


33 posted on 08/18/2015 12:15:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (qu)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Dixie Cups...Going to the chapel and we’re gonna get married.


34 posted on 08/18/2015 12:15:51 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: KGeorge
You are very welcome...........

Tiny Desk does a good job...with a lot of good artists.

Have a great day!!

35 posted on 08/18/2015 12:15:57 PM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Tell your hoodlum friends outside... you ain’t got time to take a ride.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHB3Rbz1OI

Great song to see one way when you’re young and an opposite way when you’ve learned a little!


36 posted on 08/18/2015 12:19:44 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

It was a lot more subtle (in hindsight- double entendre)

I grew up with this era- the Clovers, Ruth Brown, Clyde McPhatter & the Drifters, the Platters & of course, the more (I guess) mainstream Fats Domino, Bobby Blue Bland, Ray Charles, & Little Richard. Someone who might be more obscure that I love was Dee Clark. lol I go around singing his stuff all the time (Just Keep It Up, Nature Boy).

We used to have a radio station in San Antonio, KAPE, that played nothing but R&B. I grew up really practically allergic to pop music/ bubblegum type stuff. And West Texas (KTXL, IIRC) played a lot more R&B than Everly Brothers/ Buddy Holly type stuff. HA! My mom HATED Buddy Holly.

Bookmarking this thread!


37 posted on 08/18/2015 12:22:50 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: Osage Orange

I will… now. This man is so versatile (100 Yard Dash, Stone Rollin’- just excellent)! His guitar player has some tasty little riffs, too.

I bookmarked that, to, for the playlist.


38 posted on 08/18/2015 12:25:58 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: SeekAndFind

Yikes. It’s worse than I thought.

They had to outsource.


39 posted on 08/18/2015 12:26:19 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: KGeorge
Here's a band...and you might listen to...and think the singer is black!!

I can listen to them all day and night....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vpXX5BjltM

40 posted on 08/18/2015 12:39:45 PM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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